Template:Did you know nominations/Mark Koenig

The following is an archived discussion of Mark Koenig's DYK nomination. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page; such as this archived nomination"s (talk) page, the nominated article's (talk) page, or the Did you know (talk) page. Unless there is consensus to re-open the archived discussion here. No further edits should be made to this page. See the talk page guidelines for (more) information.

The result was: promoted by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:01, 29 March 2013 (UTC).

Mark Koenig

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... that Mark Koenig (pictured) was the last surviving member of the Murderers' Row?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rachel Nicholls
Comment: Source for hook fact is ref 12.

5× expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self nom at 18:11, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

- Length, Date, and Ref all check out. Best, Mifter (talk) 23:35, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Mark Koenig (pictured) was the last surviving member of the 1927 New York Yankees team, known as the Murderers' Row?

~~What about the above hook? --George Ho (talk) 14:13, 15 January 2013 (UTC)~~

What's wrong with the approved hook I proposed? It's quirky, interesting and leaves the reader wanting to find out more. Don't take this personally, but in my opinion, the alternate hook simply gives plain, nondescript facts. Furthermore, the DYK reviewing guide clearly states that the reviewer "can also suggest an alternate (ALT) hook that is shorter". The ALT1 hook proposed is longer, so it completely goes against what a DYK hook is suppose to be (short, succinct and interesting). —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:DYKSG#J8 says that promoter may trim excessive length "without losing essential information". How is mentioning the year and baseball team not essential? --George Ho (talk) 04:22, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Actually I was going to promote this until I figured that original hook may look good for April Fools, so I added ALT1. Let's wait for Mifter's 2nd review. --George Ho (talk) 04:37, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding. And feel free to use the original hook for April Fools; this article is worth just 12 WikiCup points, so it won't really affect my performance in the comp. —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:39, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Crossed out my ALT1, so I'm reserving this for April Fools. --George Ho (talk) 15:14, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Note to promoter: The image gives the joke away, so it should not be included. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:02, 26 March 2013 (UTC)