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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:46, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Losh, Wilson and Bell

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High Level Bridge, Newcastle

Created/expanded by Chiswick Chap (talk). Self nom at 13:28, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Article length, time, and sources all appear ok. Image is ok. I have two recommendations for changes in the hook: I recommend wiki-links to appropriate Newcastle article or adding the country in the hook; also recommend wiki-link for "approaches".Boneyard90 (talk) 05:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Agree that country should be included somehow, but if you add all those wiki-links will it be a bit overwhelming ? 81.108.168.38 (talk) 17:12, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Not at all. I've seen hooks where every word except "the" was linked in blue. In this case, there are enough towns and cities in the English-speaking world to necessitate clarification, and "approaches" seems to be either a technical or regional term. Either way, I've never heard of it/them (though I'm no bridge expert), so I must conclude that somewhere out there, there is probably someone else who wouldn't know what they are. Boneyard90 (talk) 17:20, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Still looking for those "approaches". Boneyard90 (talk) 14:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Returned to queue due to allegation that article is a copy-paste job. --Orlady (talk) 18:32, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks guys, I've been away over Easter. No, the article wasn't copy-pasted, but I did include quite a few quotes from fully-cited out-of-copyright 19th century sources - since these caused concern I've paraphrased all but the bare minimum of them (title of report, praise for Wm Losh...) and emphasised the few that remain. Can we go with ALT3 or similar? Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:09, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
  • The issues with the article seem to be resolved. Now all we need is a hook that is clearly in the article and sourced (the hook about the bridge doesn't fully meet that requirement, as discussed above). Idea:
  • ... that during the 19th century, Losh, Wilson and Bell produced soda ash and iron at their facilities on the banks of the River Tyne? --Orlady (talk) 05:14, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to suggest a hook about the Leblanc process, but according to the article it was not first used there by the firm of Losh, Wilson, and Bell. Rather, it was first used there by a predecessor business: the partnership of John and William Losh with Archibald Dundonald. Also, they didn't "pioneer" the process -- they were the first to use it in England. Finally, regarding the hook wording, the Leblanc process is not used to produce iron. --Orlady (talk) 14:11, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
  • --- hmm, maybe we go with your hook then? Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:41, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
On further thought, maybe we could use something like this:
That hook avoids saying that Losh, Wilson and Bell pioneered the process... --Orlady (talk) 16:59, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Good, I'd like to go with that. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:53, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
  • We're good, then. ALT2 and ALT5 are both OK. ALT2 uses the image, but it's awfully vague. I prefer ALT5, but the person who moves this to prep can choose. --Orlady (talk) 23:20, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
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