Template:Did you know nominations/Linda Doyle
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The result was: promoted by Amakuru (talk) 11:02, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
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Linda Doyle
Doyle lecturing in 2021
- ... that Professor of Engineering and the Arts Linda Doyle in 2021 became the first female provost (head) of Trinity College Dublin since its 1592 foundation by Elizabeth I? Source: Person, Prof of Engineering and the Arts, first female - The Irish TImes (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/trinity-college-dublin-names-linda-doyle-as-first-woman-provost-in-429-years-1.4534221) (also Cork's Echo newspaper, https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40335095.html), and "first since Elizabeth I's establishment" - The Irish Independent, https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/trinity-will-see-a-woman-in-the-top-job-for-first-time-since-1592-39976292.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/History of the Jews in Hong Kong
- Comment: A notable election after 429 years, and a lively current picture to animate it. Substantial referencing available.
5x expanded by SeoR (talk) after creation by Antiqueight (talk). Nominated by SeoR (talk) at 12:46, 1 February 2022 (UTC).
- I shall review this. Schwede66 20:47, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Five-time expansion has been exceeded by 11 bytes (well done for precision). There are some content issues, though. An unreferenced date of birth is an absolute no-no for a BLP; please find a source or delete. Yes, provosts get appointed for a decade but in the article, it must say "1 August 2021 – present" and not give a date in 2031 as that violates WP:CRYSTAL (she might not live that long for a start). We don't display articles on the mainpage with [citation needed]tags so please delete the info or provide a source (and if you delete it, I'll still pass it as "long enough" under WP:IAR). Otherwise, it's adequately sourced. Provost is not a proper noun so has to have lower case as per MOS:JOBTITLES (e.g. in the hook, where I have changed it; please change in the article as needed). Similarly, drop caps for "Vice-President" and "Dean" etc. I had not heard of STEAM and thought it was a spelling mistake of STEM; maybe provide the unabbreviated name in parentheses. The phrase "also including" sounds a bit clumsy and given we have three women, may use "alongside" instead. Under "Publications", it might pay to use a more common citation style than what's shown here; have a look at the section "Examples" of parenthetical referencing. Earwig is happy. The hook is fine. The photo is suitably licensed. QPQ has been done. Schwede66 22:27, 2 February 2022 (UTC)- Hello Schwede66 and thanks for taking the case. The length is not quite as precise, sadly :-) - DYKCheck does not count bulleted text, so those lines take it a bit further over the line. The DoB pre-exists the expansion so I will double-check the original refs (should have done that before, sorry), but if no backing, I will simply remove it for now. Fair point re. term end date. I think there is one CN, will deal with that - the claim is question is widely made but if no clear backing, out it comes. Trinity always spells Provost in the context of the specific ancient office of Provost of TCD with a capital, but no problem to decap. On STEAM, as you saw, the encyclopedia has an article, but indeed it is much more obscure than STEM, so I will expand it. And I'll be on the Publications point too. It's getting late here, so all will be dealt with by tomorrow. SeoR (talk) 22:41, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- SeoR, bulleted text does not count, just so you know. Have a look at Wikipedia:Did you know/Supplementary guidelines (A2) and the definition of readable prose at WP:RPS. Schwede66 22:49, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Schwede66, many thanks for that! I did not recall it as an absolute ban, only that certain aspects did not count, for clear reasons - I will keep this in mind. I have done an initial run, addressing many of the points, and will return in the morning to sweep through and finalise. SeoR (talk) 22:58, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Schwede66, all done, I think - and thanks for the advice, the article reads better now. SeoR (talk) 18:37, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Looking splendid; good to go. Schwede66 02:17, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- @SeoR: looks like the third paragraph of "Academic work" and the first paragraph of "Provostship" need citations—could that be cleared up before I promote? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 07:28, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Theleekycauldron, good to meet again. Sure, will sort that. I'm sure all paras were cited at time of submission, and thorough review by Schwede66, but there have been works by "divers hands" on this - all very welcome, of course - and there may have been slippage. I'm on it within the hour. SeoR (talk) 07:54, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Theleekycauldron, I suggest this meets rule D2 just fine. More thorough referencing is always appreciated (SeoR, go for it if you wish) but the DYK hurdle has been cleared. Schwede66 07:59, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks both. I had understood that the standard was one good cite per paragraph, as a minimum, but I am always happy to maximise quality, and I have now added to the coverage for the noted paragraphs. So now it is in your hands for promotion, and consideration of the picture option. SeoR (talk) 08:32, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
