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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:43, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

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LORAN

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AN/APN-4 LORAN receiver for aircraft

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nominated at 17:20, 15 April 2014 (UTC).

  • I can never figure out how to add images after-the-fact, so if someone knows how to do this, do you mind?
  • I got it for you, Maury Markowitz. Whenever I run up against a problem like this, I just go to a page where the markup is working and shamelessly steal said working markup. That's what I did here. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Large article, newly created on the day of nomination. Hook fact supported by Chapter 1 of the Parrott ref. Every paragraph requires a citation, though, and I identified six without any. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:58, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

All complete. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:19, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

  • QPQ peer review, please. Thanks in advance. --PFHLai (talk) 19:49, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

QPQ complete. Maury Markowitz (talk) 01:59, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Sorry, didn't see the response. I found one more. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:28, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Not in this case. It is an intro para. Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:09, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Maury Markowitz, please post a link to the QPQ, so it can be checked. Thanks. Also, note to Muboshgu: the DYK guideline specifically excludes paragraphs which summarize other cited content from needing inline sourcing; if it doesn't, which fact(s) there do you feel need(s) such sourcing? BlueMoonset (talk) 18:44, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  • I've always operated under the notion that any non-lead paragraph needs a citation. The first paragraph in "Basic Concept" goes above my head as a layman in this field, hence my thought that some sort of citation is needed. If you don't think one is needed there, BlueMoonset, then we can pass this now. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:07, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Right! I need a macro for this: Template:Did you know nominations/Tsering Samphel Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:50, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

  • I chose two random references and was not immediately impressed that they backed up the material they were there to verify. I looked at this (what kind of a source is that anyway?) and could not see that it backed up These experiments demonstrated accuracy on the order of 160 feet (49 m) at 750 miles (1,210 km), a great advance over LORAN, but it was also discovered that the system was very difficult to use. Then I looked at this and could not see that it backed up Extensive evaluation flights revealed an average position-fixing error of 1–2 miles. This second one might be a problem over page numbers. I am not suggesting anything nefarious. I'm sure this can be cleared up. The article looks otherwise ok. --John (talk) 19:51, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Something is wrong with your search tool perhaps? I just opened the document in question and did a Find on "The accuracy achieved" and "flights" and both statements showed up. Neither statement comes from the first cite. Maury Markowitz (talk) 20:54, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
I'll have another look. Meantime, do you mind adjusting the article so that the right cites backs up the right content? If that first source is unused, we could take it out. --John (talk) 21:37, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Maybe I'm looking at the wrong cite? Both of the cites from the Proc page are used, just not where you were pointing out. Maury Markowitz (talk) 10:46, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Ok, try that for the first one. Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:07, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
And a couple more edits too. Maury Markowitz (talk) 20:06, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

All issues mentioned above have been addressed, what now? Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:34, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Sorry to be difficult. "Extensive evaluation flights revealed an average position-fixing error of 1–2 miles." appears to be an exact copy of the words from the source. --John (talk) 21:35, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Fixed. Perhaps for minor stuff like this you might just fix it? 13:03, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Full review from scratch, due to changes made in article since it was nominated. New enough for 15 April, and long enough. I like the hook, and it checks out with online book citation. Hook image is free, and it appears in the article. QPQ OK (Tsering Samphel). No problem with disambigs or with external links. Images in article are free. The issues which were raised here are now addressed. Congratulations on a clearly-explained and useful article. Good to go (at last!) --Storye book (talk) 13:49, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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