Template:Did you know nominations/Joseph McLain
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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 21:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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Joseph McLain
Joseph McLain in 1951
... that Joseph McLain (pictured) helped write the safety standards for fireworks?Source: After earning his doctorate in chemistry at the Johns Hopkins University, Conkling returned to Washington College, his undergraduate alma mater, to work with Professor Joseph McLain. The two scientists began looking at how materials burned. They soon became involved with the American Pyrotechnics Association, which wanted to develop an industry standard for safe weights and storage of fireworks. The two colleagues submitted their recommendations to the Consumer Products Safety Commission. They became part of the first set of fireworks standards. https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-2004-07-03-0407030176-story.html- ALT1:... that Joseph McLain (pictured) is the only alumnus to serve as the president of Washington College?
ALT2:... that Joseph McLain (pictured) held 30 patents for smoke grenades, underwater torches, and flares?Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34054824/the-star-democrat/
Created by Guerillero (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 3 January 2021 (UTC).
Guerillero, review follows: article is new enough, long enough, reasonably well written, free of copyvio ([1]). qpq has been done. Image seems appropriately licenced and displays fine at a small size. When looking at the sourcing for ALT2 I'm not seeing that the patents were just for "for smoke grenades, underwater torches, and flares", so could you consider rephrasing along the lines of "30 patents, including "? For ALT2, I really don't think you can use a source from 1981 to cite 'only alumnus' to date-- and besides, all I see in the sourcing is 'first'. ALT0 seems to imply that he wrote the only standards, but could you maybe rephrase that along the lines of "helped write early safety standards for fireworks"? There's also an uncited bit in 'personal life' and I'd suggest considering removing the names of his kids per WP:BLPNAME. Looking good, some minor things. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:30, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Eddie891: I wouldn't be oppose to adding an including to ALT2 the hook. That is an OK change to ALT0. RE: ALT1 I'm trying not to use college sources, but I can tell you that there hasn't been another alumnus as president since this was published in 2000. [2] Would you be Okay with using this source? I removed the kids names. --Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:04, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- ALT2a:... that Joseph McLain (pictured) held 30 patents, including smoke grenades, underwater torches, and flares?
- ALT0a:... that Joseph McLain (pictured) helped write early safety standards for fireworks?
- Guerillero I'm ok with that as a source, but if it were me in your shoes I would be opt to use that book and then add a college source or this 2014 obit to further back up the claim towards the present day-- I can't see a great reason not to use a college's source to say that only one president has been an alumnus. Let me know how you decide to handle it -- Eddie891 Talk Work 21:14, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Eddie891: I added both sources --Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:47, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- Guerillero I'm ok with that as a source, but if it were me in your shoes I would be opt to use that book and then add a college source or this 2014 obit to further back up the claim towards the present day-- I can't see a great reason not to use a college's source to say that only one president has been an alumnus. Let me know how you decide to handle it -- Eddie891 Talk Work 21:14, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
