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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Amakuru (talk) 09:38, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

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James O'Donnell (organist)

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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:23, 15 September 2022 (UTC).

  • Comment - the "master of music" title appears to pertain to his time at the Catholic Westminster Cathedral, rather than his current role at the Westmister Abbey. The official title now is "organist and master of the choristers", but that seems too long. I've seen sources such as the abbey's official page calling him "director of music" so that might work. Could I suggest something like:
    ALT0a: ... that Westminster Abbey's director of music James O'Donnell is responsible for the singing at the state funeral of Queen Elizabeth II and will be a professor at Yale University from 2023?  — Amakuru (talk) 11:44, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
    Thank you for the offer. I find the formal way kind of typical for the place, - I had it formally with capital letters (until it was changed to match our article), and just dropped "organist" because for the function he'll (only) conduct. I'm not happy with the "and" before Yale, because it seems to suggest it's an additional post but Westminster says quite clearly that they look for a successor. Want to reword? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:55, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - unsure which one is preferred
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Expansion is sufficient, article looks in good shape (I haven't checked all sources, but spot-checks found the sources to support the statements). I am confident this "rush job" is of sufficient quality for DYK. My only holdback is that I don't know how the hook should look. I assume you would like

better, Gerda Arendt? If so, we only need someone else to approve hook ALT0b. –LordPeterII (talk) 22:16, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing this long thing, Peter! Perhaps we should discuss the options on WT:DYK. You can approve all, because the ALT is just a rewording, - no new fact, no new source to be checked. I prefer ALT1 if run for the occasion, as saying something about the preferences and style of those in charge, perhaps even HM, but ALT0a if run later, saying more about the subject. Would O'Donnell like his psalm setting mentioned? I guess so. Listen to it, it's very modest, very traditional, very fitting for the situation. The last time I looked at the video, there was already a five-digit audience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Okay, I've only struck the original hook for now because the title used there was questioned.
This can get into the special queue, with the hook ALT1 or something else. –LordPeterII (talk) 09:28, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
To Q3.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:38, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
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