Template:Did you know nominations/Jack Entratter
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 10:27, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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Jack Entratter
[edit]... that Jack Entratter's "Copa Girls" wore US$12,000 worth of costumes for opening night at the Sands Hotel and Casino, surpassing the salary of the Copa Room's star, Danny Thomas?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Citrullinemia type I
- Comment: (a) Alts welcome. (b) After hook approval, please add to the Frank Sinatra Day holding area.
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 02:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC).
Created on Nov. 9, nom on Nov 11/new enough. 3352 char/long enough. In-line citations throughout save one marked section, "but they divorced before his death.[citation needed]". No apparent copyvios. Hook is 183 char/under maximum and is hooky. Cited immediately following claim. No image. QPQ done. If you will fix the one cite or remove the claim is GTG.SusunW (talk) 16:35, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- @SusunW: thanks for the review. I've removed the uncited claim. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:55, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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- @Dr. Blofeld:@Rosiestep: this is the only entry under Frank Sinatra Day that doesn't say anything about Frank Sinatra. I added something from the Klein source and am proposing this alt:
- ALT1:
... that Jack Entratter, first general manager of the Sands Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, built the Copa Room nightclub at the hotel especially for Frank Sinatra? - Alternately, if you could provide a cite:
ALT2: ... that Frank Sinatra recorded his first live album, Sinatra at the Sands, in the Copa Room that general manager Jack Entratter built especially for him at the Sands Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas?Yoninah (talk) 10:09, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- Actually at the time, the renovation to the Copa Room, larger stage, greater capacity, hadn't been yet done, I think it was expanded primarily for Sinatra but in early 1966 they'd not yet done it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
I can confirm that ALT1 is acceptable and sourced immediately following. Also 160 char/under maximum length. Based on Dr. B's comment striking Alt2. Restoring tick. Thanks for all of your help on these Yoninah! SusunW (talk) 17:44, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- @SusunW: you know, the alt hook actually looks colorless next to the original. Could we combine the two?
- ALT3: ... that Jack Entratter's "Copa Girls" wore US$12,000 worth of costumes for opening night in the Copa Room, the nightclub at the Sands that Entratter built especially for Frank Sinatra? Yoninah (talk) 14:18, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- Yoninah Obviously that works too, but it's better and less of a mouthful and doesn't exceed 200 like the previous one did to just say the Sands. No one in my recollection ever called it anything except that. At the very most, it might be called the Sands Hotel. But no American is going to say all of that. If it cannot be shortened, it will become an acronym. NYC, FDR, LA, JFK, ;) SusunW (talk) 14:29, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- Actually at the time, the renovation to the Copa Room, larger stage, greater capacity, hadn't been yet done, I think it was expanded primarily for Sinatra but in early 1966 they'd not yet done it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
