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The result was: promoted by Kingsif (talk) 21:04, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Interlingue

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... that Interlingue, an international auxiliary language, was released 100 years ago under the name Occidental by a Baltic German from Estonia?

This one is originally ALT0b, seems best wording (see discussion below) so added to the top. Other previous proposed hooks:

... that one of the major international auxiliary languages of the 20th century was released exactly 100 years ago by a Baltic German from Estonia? Source: 1) Source on major: "The next major language project to come along appeared shortly after the Great War." 2) Source on 100 years: First issue of Kosmoglott, Feb. 1922
(Second proposition) ... that the international auxiliary language Interlingue was released 100 years ago under the name Occidental by a Baltic German from Estonia ?
- Comment: Originally hoped to make GA in February as the language was released in February of 1922 but making the centennial is almost as good!

Improved to Good Article status by Mithridates (talk). Self-nominated at 13:39, 13 April 2022 (UTC).

Thank you, Mithridates, for a substantial GA, on fine sources, offline and foreign sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. - I am not happy with two aspects of the hook, one the bolded portion, the other the word "exactly", which I'd understand as meaning some precise day and month, which I don't see. Easy repair: drop that word. The bolded thingy: I understand that - as the language had different names - it's not easy to refer to it, but this vague description is not for my taste. Could we at least drop "of the 20th century"? Completely, I mean, or isn't it a major auxiliary language, ever? But perhaps better: name it correctly as released and add "later known as ...". Please let me know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:33, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Sure, that sounds fine. I guess I thought of 'exactly' to mean the precise year but we can certainly drop it. The '20th century' part was also to keep a historical context and avoid saying "one of the world's major auxiliary languages" which asks the question is it really still? (It is, but then it would have to be sourced and sourcing modern trends is pretty tough) The bolded hook is to make it a little more fun by not giving the exact name in the hook but it could certainly be rewritten. But sure, let's try another phrasing that is perhaps a bit cleaner. How about this?

ALT0a ... that the international auxiliary language Interlingue was released 100 years ago under the name Occidental by a Baltic German from Estonia? Mithridates (talk) 15:03, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! I'd say that like this:

ALT0b ... that Interlingue, an international auxiliary language, was released 100 years ago under the name Occidental by a Baltic German from Estonia?

prep builder: pick from the bits. (We don't link current countries, but Estonia is borderline known, for example.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Looks good! Yes, let's go with that one. I was actually looking for a page on Estonia during the time when de Wahl released it (i.e. first period of independence) but didn't see anything and yeah, it's well known enough that we can leave out the link. Mithridates (talk) 17:11, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Almost forgot: if an image is needed for the day one of these two could be good. The former is the first issue of the magazine announcing the language with a photo directly taken by a user here who visited the library in Switzerland with all the international auxiliary language materials, while the latter is made available by the Austrian National Library which also has a massive collection of such things. The latter looks much better at low resolution while the former matches the centennial and perhaps has a better copyright.

Thak you for offering, but 7 out of 8 hooks have to do without image, - I guess this will be one them. They are both properly licensed, - in case a prep builder thinks differently. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. There they are just in case anyone chooses to use them. Mithridates (talk) 09:15, 17 April 2022 (UTC)