Template:Did you know nominations/Glossary of bird terms
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
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Glossary of bird terms
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Explanatory diagram from Pycraft, W. P. (1893). "The Interlocking of Feathers". Natural Science: A Monthly Review of Scientific Progress. Vol. 3. Macmillan. p. 199.
- ... that on bird contour feathers, flanges of distal barbules anchor hooklets that depend from pennulum of barbicels on distal barbules branching from the rami of barbs growing from the rachides of stems? Source: pages 32-33 of Ornithology in Laboratory and Field, by Olin Sewall Pettingill, Jr.
- ALT1:... that in the nesting season, most female birds gain a bare patch of skin called a brood patch, by shedding feathers close to the belly in an area that will be in contact with eggs during incubation?
- ALT2:... that the feathers of birds are considered the most complex integumentary structures found in vertebrates, and a premier example of a complex evolutionary novelty?
- Reviewed: Wipeout HD
- Comment: Moved to mainspace from user space draft earlier today.
Created by Fuhghettaboutit (talk). Self-nominated at 03:54, 16 March 2017 (UTC).
This is a most impressive list and must have taken a great deal of work to accumulate. It was moved into mainspace on 15th March and therefore meets the requirements for newness and length. It is neutral and I doubt there are any policy issues, great care having been taken to attribute everything correctly, and the very nature of a glossary being to summarise technical terms. My only problem is with the proposed hook. DYK rule 3a states "The hook should include a definite fact that is mentioned in the article and interesting to a broad audience", and it is the "broad audience" bit that this hook fails, full as it is of obscure technical terms. Could you propose one or more alternative hooks of more general interest? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:57, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hey Cwmhiraeth. Thank you for the kind words. This is my favorite hook of all DYKs I've ever done. It's like "...the ankle bone's connected to the heel bone..." song, but about a matter they had no idea existed, as to something they know intimately, and is of of general interest, bird feathers (and how they are connected together; if it wasn't for length constraints, I would want it to end with something like "all of which give feather vanes structure, strength, flexibility and stability"). I'm hoping you or anyone promoting this or making the queues considers using it. I do not believe it violates the spirit of the rule. I love this hook because I think it's fascinating and that it will draw readers in, which is the point of DYK, and the reason for the rule (and of course, if a rule in the context of a specific application doesn't meet with the spirit it was intended to address or doesn't help Wikipedia, it should be ignored). With that being said, there are a million hooks to use. I'll provide another above, later today. I am off to work and simply do not have time now.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)
The original hook, ALT1 and ALT2 are all approved. The nominator is keen to use the original hook as exemplifying the amazing complexity of feather linkages. I prefer ALT2. The image is in the public domain but is not impressive at thumbnail size. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:43, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
