Template:Did you know nominations/Giacomo dalla Torre del Tempio di Sanguinetto
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 12:43, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
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Giacomo dalla Torre del Tempio di Sanguinetto
Giacomo dalla Torre
- ... that before becoming Grand Master of the Order of Malta, Giacomo dalla Torre (pictured) once looked after a cat belonging to a German shepherd? Source: The Tablet
- Reviewed: Rio de Flag
- Comment: Eligible per Rule 1e, because it only appeared in the "Recent Deaths" section of ITN and not as a bold link. Open to having it run on April Fools' Day 2021 if it is deemed sufficiently quirky.
Improved to Good Article status by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:17, 4 June 2020 (UTC).
The article is eligible for a DYK, but I don't think this is funny or surprising enough to merit a 10-month wait for an April Fools in 2021. And frankly, I think the sentence about him looking after a cat is trivia and does not even belong to the article. It seems a very minor, very footnote-ish event from his life, and it seems like its sole function in the article is to provide a hook here. I am sorry, but I think this fails on all counts (as in, please remove this trivia from the article, and please provide a proper hook, which I'll be happy to review). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:25, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: As I had already explained in the GA review, the purpose of including that sentence is "to illustrate how he himself has a "strong affiliation" with the Vatican (mentioned earlier in the first sentence of the section)". Therefore, it's incorrect to claim that "its sole function in the article is to provide a hook here" – I only used it for the hook because it is the most interesting fact to a broad audience. —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:42, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Bloom6132: I appreciate the explanation but I remain unconvinced this fact (and by extension, hook) is encyclopedic. That said, this is a subjective judgement, and if you want to stand by the hook, another reviewer will be needed as I am still deeming this hook as not interesting enough, and concerning a fact that I still believe is trivial and encyclopedic. I will be happy to review other hooks if you chose to submit any alts. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:35, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Alright, how about this one?:
- ALT1: ... that when Giacomo dalla Torre (pictured) was elected Grand Master of the Order of Malta in 2018, it marked the first time that female members participated in the vote for a new leader? Source: Times of Malta
- Hope that's alright. —Bloom6132 (talk) 12:05, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
I could nitpick that the hook is only half about him, but... that's probably ok anyway. I think the new hook is more encyclopedic, so GTG. All other things checked, plus this is a recent GA anyway. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:38, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
