The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 21:09, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
Overall: Both of the hooks are cited to reliable sources and interesting enough. ALT1 is okay, though I've proposed a shorter version (ALT2). My concern with the primary hook is twofold. First, the article and hook link to West Coast of the United States, but neither the cited source, nor Knott's itself explicitly limits itself to the United States. If this hook is used, it should be edited and cited to a source clarifying if the claim only applies to the United States, or to Canada as well. Also, the source is from 1999, which is over two decades ago. While Knott's website still makes the claim, it would be better to have a more recent source, since this is a potentially dated claim. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 10:51, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
@Patar knight: about the first hook citation the knott's farm official website that you linked details that it specifically mentions the US. However it does mention both the west coast and the Western United States which are different on wikipedia. Regardless though I can't seem to find a more modern source for the Alt0. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Onegreatjoke, it looks like RCDB which was accepted as a RS for List of roller coaster rankings's successful featured list candidacy, verifies that it remains the longest roller coaster on the West Coast of the United States and North America [1], as well as all the Americas (South America has one wooden roller coast in Brazil) [2]. It's probably best to cite an independent source for a claim such as this, so if RCDB is used in the article, that should be fine for DYK's purposes. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:02, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
@Patar knight: RCDB isn't used in the article but since the RCDB source you've provided works as a source we could just technically use that. Onegreatjoke (talk) 15:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
I don't have an issue with the primary hook if RCDB is used in the article, which it currently isn't. Once it is in the article, than it's good to go. I'm not familiar with how these superlatives are typically handled in roller coaster/attraction articles, so I'm leaving it to the editorial discretion of those more familiar with such articles if the article/hook will refer to the West/Pacific Coast of the US/North America/the Americas. Perhaps Epicgenius can help us out? Other hook is good to go now, but probably a bit less interesting. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:21, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
@Patar knight: I've decided to just add the citation into the article. Would that be good enough? Onegreatjoke (talk) 13:25, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping Patar knight. The Los Angeles Times article describing the ride's opening says that Knott's Berry Farm billed the roller coaster as the tallest and fastest wooden coaster in the West, but it does not specify further. However, since all ten of the longest wooden roller coasters in North America are in the U.S., and since nine of them are in the Midwest or on the East Coast, I think the RCDB source that Onegreatjoke added should be fine. Epicgenius (talk) 15:23, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
I've added some text to the article so it supports all the claims. I've added an ALT hook for the Americas claim, and adjusted the original hook to refer to the United States. Any of the four should be good to go now, though ALT2 is more concise than ALT1. Thanks for your help. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 06:47, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Both of the hooks are cited to reliable sources and interesting enough. ALT1 is okay, though I've proposed a shorter version (ALT2). My concern with the primary hook is twofold. First, the article and hook link to West Coast of the United States, but neither the cited source, nor Knott's itself explicitly limits itself to the United States. If this hook is used, it should be edited and cited to a source clarifying if the claim only applies to the United States, or to Canada as well. Also, the source is from 1999, which is over two decades ago. While Knott's website still makes the claim, it would be better to have a more recent source, since this is a potentially dated claim. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 10:51, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 06:47, 4 November 2022 (UTC)