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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

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George Ali Murad Khan

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George Ali Murad Khan seated on throne
George Ali Murad Khan seated on throne

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 14:41, 19 April 2019 (UTC).

  • Nice decent article but we need a better source for the claim. Will indulge in some copy-editing. ∯WBGconverse 12:10, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Expanded the article by 2X. Struck out hook; for being inaccurate. Once again, I cannot over-emphasize the need to abide by WP:HISTRS.To quote a reliable source:-In contrast, by 1951 India – all princely states included – was participating in the first nationwide general elections on the principles of ‘one person, one vote’ and representative government, while in Pakistan only Khairpur and Bahawalpur even achieved universal adult franchise, and no state realised full responsible government. The issue of pin-pointing the state that first achieved universal-suffrage -- Bahawalpur (wherein a very similar law was passed days before Khairpur's) or Khairpur or the entire country of India (which has decided on suffrage, long back and preparations of voters list et al were in swing for years) is not easy. ∯WBGconverse 15:03, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
  • @Winged Blades of Godric: The claim in the hook was cited from The Friday Times, a Pakistani newspaper. Also in this revision, you have added a fact and added citation needed to it! RRD (talk) 12:44, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
  • A Pakistani source has all the reasons to claim exaggerated stuff. Similar for Indian sources; if this was an India-based article. My source was a peer-reviewed scholarly publication and I see at-least one leading expert in the area, as a co-author.
  • As to cn template; I need to get the precise bibliographic data of the source, once I go for my next visit to National Library of India :-( The soft-copy that I can access through my subscriptions has a lack of it. ∯WBGconverse 13:32, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
I also have to note that the article currently has a citation needed tag. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have removed the unsourced statement.
  • ALT1:... that George Ali Murad Khan, the erstwhile ruler of Khairpur state of Pakistan initially wanted to join India? RRD (talk) 02:52, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
    ALT1 is probably a better option, but I will leave the rest to the original reviewer Winged Blades of Godric. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:05, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
    I have removed my addition, sourcing ain't strong. The hook is thus, ineligible. ∯WBGconverse 09:53, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
  • New reviewer needed; at this point, Winged Blades of Godric has contributed too much to the article to be eligible to review here. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Looking at this again, I think ALT1 could be rephased into something like:
ALT1a ... that George Ali Murad Khan, who was the ruler of the princely state of Khairpur in Pakistan, initially wanted his state to join India?
The main issue that it now appears that the information is no longer in the article, which would make ALT1/ALT1a unsuitable. If that is the case, I'm proposing an alternative below:
ALT2 ... that George Ali Murad Khan, who was the ruler of the princely state of Khairpur in Pakistan, survived accidentally being shot by his father when he was nine months old?
Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:59, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
@Winged Blades of Godric and Royroydeb: Are either of you fine with ALT2? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:49, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Yes. RRD (talk) 10:29, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Striking ALT1 and ALT1a as the hook fact is no longer in the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:27, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
  • WBG has been unable to respond thus far though the nominator is fine with ALT2; new reviewer needed to check the hook's suitability. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:56, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
    ALT2 is fine from me. Well done! Apologies for delay:-( ∯WBGconverse 11:21, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
QPQ for Template:Did you know nominations/Oriana Wilson
Article moved from User:Royroydeb/George Murad on April 12, 2019 and has 3631 characters (593 words) "readable prose size"
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ALT2 Hook is interesting, short enough and sourced with Ref 1
Hook is sourced to :He survived an accidental shooting by his father, in which a bullet penetrated his stomach and right lung, and exited through the back of his right shoulder, when he was just nine months old.
Every paragraph sourced
Earwig @ Toolserver Copyvio Detector found no copyvio
GTG -- Thats Just Great (talk) 17:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
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