Template:Did you know nominations/Gaby Chiappe
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:26, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
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Gaby Chiappe
- ... that the Leeds-based screenwriter Gaby Chiappe worked with the Rape Crisis centre there to develop a storyline about rape? Source: The Guardian
- ALT1:... that screenwriter Gaby Chiappe and her sons appeared in the film Their Finest, which she wrote? Source: Gibraltar Magazine and Flickering Myth
- Reviewed: Gott, der du warst und bist und bleibst
Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 19:54, 8 February 2020 (UTC).
- I am in the process of reviewing this nomination. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:18, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Creation versus filing date okay. Article length more than sufficient at 4406 B (730 words) readable prose size. Article sourcing and neutrality okay. QPQ done in resolving a stuck nomination. Image in article has a reasonable fair use rationale. Hook lengths are okay, neutrality and sourcing good. I prefer the first hook, but maybe expand it a bit to something like:
- ALT2: ... that the Leeds-based screenwriter Gaby Chiappe worked with the Rape Crisis centre there to develop a storyline about rape that was praised as being powerful without being graphic?
- @Kingsif: Overall I liked the article's structure and it's a good contribution. There is however an issue with unattributed quotations. It is not clear who is saying each of the quotations in the article (other than in the side box) – is it Chiappe, or is it some journalist doing a profile of Chiappe? In some cases the article is downright misleading, such as Regarding writing for television, Chiappe has said that she is a slow writer and "has to work all hours to stick to the strict deadlines";[1] That sure sounds like a direct quote from Chiappe, but when you consult the source, it's the Gibraltar Magazine writer's own words of something that Chiappe told him. So I think that all of these unattributed quotations should have clear identification of who is saying them, or they should be reworked as paraphrases without quotation marks. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:41, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Wasted Time R: I can work on the quote attributions, if you want. Also, your ping didn’t work. Kingsif (talk) 12:56, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Kingsif: I forget the ping on the first edit then went back and inserted it, but didn't reapply a signature, so maybe that's why it didn't trigger. In any case, yes the quotations should be characterized in-text or changed into paraphrases. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:41, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Wasted Time R: That'll be it. Quotations resolved. Kingsif (talk) 01:56, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Kingsif:
There are still two quotations that are not resolved – "did as much acting as possible" and "script writing was the culmination of all that interested her". In particular, the first sounds like it's a quote from Chiappe but it's not. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:42, 20 February 2020 (UTC) 
On second thought, I'm going a bit overboard on this. This is hardly the only article on WP – or in other publishing venues for that matter – that uses quotations without in-text attributions as to who is saying them. And there's fewer of them in this article than there was before. So consider this nomination as good to go. Wasted Time R (talk) 12:58, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Kingsif:
- @Wasted Time R: That'll be it. Quotations resolved. Kingsif (talk) 01:56, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Kingsif: I forget the ping on the first edit then went back and inserted it, but didn't reapply a signature, so maybe that's why it didn't trigger. In any case, yes the quotations should be characterized in-text or changed into paraphrases. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:41, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Wasted Time R: I can work on the quote attributions, if you want. Also, your ping didn’t work. Kingsif (talk) 12:56, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Kingsif: Overall I liked the article's structure and it's a good contribution. There is however an issue with unattributed quotations. It is not clear who is saying each of the quotations in the article (other than in the side box) – is it Chiappe, or is it some journalist doing a profile of Chiappe? In some cases the article is downright misleading, such as Regarding writing for television, Chiappe has said that she is a slow writer and "has to work all hours to stick to the strict deadlines";[1] That sure sounds like a direct quote from Chiappe, but when you consult the source, it's the Gibraltar Magazine writer's own words of something that Chiappe told him. So I think that all of these unattributed quotations should have clear identification of who is saying them, or they should be reworked as paraphrases without quotation marks. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:41, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
