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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Redtigerxyz Talk 16:32, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Extermination of Evil

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Shinchū the silkworm moth eating a demon

  • ... the one of the things depicted in the Extermination of Evil is a silkworm moth fighting demons (pictured)?
  • Comment: Image to follow. My connection is terrible today.

Created/expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Hook review
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Redtigerxyz Talk Problem that Nara National Museum says that evil may be demons OR evil spirits. "fighting demons" in context of the Divine Insect is no where in the article/reference. I suggest replacing demons with "evil", which solves the problem. Redtigerxyz Talk Redtigerxyz Talk Redtigerxyz Talk


Article review
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2972 B Redtigerxyz Talk New Redtigerxyz Talk Redtigerxyz Talk Redtigerxyz Talk Problem of one source: National Institutes for Cultural Heritage. Nara Museum website only for dimensions. Redtigerxyz Talk Redtigerxyz Talk "close paraphrasing"???? Redtigerxyz Talk
  • "fighting demons" part is not in the article. --Redtigerxyz Talk 17:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
IMO, the problem of close paraphrasing streams from one source. Compare "The God of Heavenly Punishment-literally "the star [that metes out] heavenly punishment"-is a demon from the Yin-yang tradition. In Japan, he was incorporated into Esoteric Buddhist prayers. In this painting, he is shown consuming the Ox-headed Deity (J. Gozu Tennô), the pestilence god worshipped at Gion Shrine in Kyoto." with "The God of Heavenly Punishment (Tenkeisei, literally meaning "the star [that metes out] heavenly punishment"), is a deity from the Chinese tradition of yin and yang. Originally a demon, he took on a role in Vajrayana prayers. In the painting he is depicted fighting and consuming Gozu Tennô, an ox-headed demon worshipped at the Gion Shrine in Kyoto."--Redtigerxyz Talk 14:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Regarding hook, any suggestions that don't involve repeating "evil"? Regarding the paraphrasing, I don't consider that close paraphrasing to the point that it would render the article a copyvio, as it gives further context to the information. I will touch up the ox-headed bit as the creature is not necessarily a demon. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:49, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
  • I've added another reference which supports some information already there and provides a bit more. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:23, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that a divine silkworm moth (pictured) is one of those participating in the Extermination of Evil? - If the original is less than desirable. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
ALT has a reference. No OR. But for other issues, let someone else take a look again. --Redtigerxyz Talk 15:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Second opinion requested. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:35, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
MOS:TITLE says to italicize paintings, and probably a group of paintings. Art LaPella (talk) 00:17, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm assuming that "for other issues, let someone else take a look again" means Redtigerxyz would prefer a second opinion. I personally think it's fine, but I'm not neutral. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:57, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
I am ok with removing single source as both references are RS. It's notability lies in the inclusion with National Treasures of Japan, but the chief problem is "close paraphrasing" IMO, on which I would appreciate a second opinion. It seems that the "close paraphrasing" is a result of "one source", as all sentences from the one source are lifted in order and rewrote with superficial changes. --Redtigerxyz Talk 14:54, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
  • My posting at WT:DYK does not seem to have attracted any attention, so I am a little... downhearted. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:02, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
  • I will review the close paraphrasing issues within the next 48 hours. Cunard (talk) 10:40, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Third opinion – spotchecks for close paraphrasing

After spotchecking two sections of the article, I don't find any close paraphrasing. Here are the comparisons below:

  • Article: "The paintings are thought to have been created during the 1100s, during the reign of Emperor Go-Shirakawa in the Heian period"
    Source: "it is conjectured to have been made during the time of Emperor Goshirakawa"
  • Article: "One view holds that the calligraphy for the Extermination of Evil was brushed by the same hand as that of the Hell Scroll"
    Source: "This set was originally mounted as a handscroll that was known as the "second edition of the Masuda family Hell Scroll."
  • Article: "The paintings depict five benevolent deities in combat against evil, as represented by demons; the deities come from several cultures, including contemporary Japanese, Chinese, and Indian.
    Source: "These paintings depict the God of Heavenly Punishment (J. Tenkeisei), Sendan Kendatsuba (Skt. Cadana Gandharva), the Divine Insect (J. Shinchû), Shôki (Ch. Zhonggui), and Bishamon Ten (Skt. Vaisravana), all believed in China to be benevolent deities who expel demons of plague."
  • Article: "They are thought to be associated with the Hell Transformation Screens then used in Nara for repentance ceremonies at the end of each year, where the devout recited the names of the buddhas at Heijō Palace."
    Source: "This scroll set, which brings together a number of unusual images, has had strong connections to the Southern Capital of Nara and to the Hell Transformation Screens (J. Jigokuhen gobyôbu), which were used in year-end repentance ceremonies, held at the Imperial Palace up until the Heian period, in which the names of the buddhas were recited (J. butsumyôe)."
  • Article: "Sendan Kendatsuba (栴檀乾闥婆, Sanskrit name Cadana Gandharva) is one of the eight guardians of Buddhist law and one of the 33 manifestations of Avalokiteśvara. He is derived from an Indian patron god of music and believed to protect young people from the fifteen malevolent deities. He is drawn similar to in the Dôji mandara. The painting measures 25.8 by 77.2 centimetres (10.2 by 30.4 in) and has the accession number 1106-2."
    Source: "Sendan Kendatsuba was originally an Indian god of music. Later, he came to be classified as being one among the Eight Classes of Protectors of the Buddhist Law (J. hachibushû) and is described in the Lotus Sutra as one of the thirty-three manifestations of the bodhisattva Avalokitesvara (J. Kannon). He is also believed to protect youths from the dangers of the fifteen malevolent deities. Here, his form closely resembles that found in the Esoteric Buddhist Mandala of Youths (J. Dôji mandara)."

Cunard (talk) 00:18, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

  • So is it good to go? Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:52, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
    • If there are no objections from Redtigerxyz, this article is ready. Cunard (talk) 02:33, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Promote based on Cunard's review. --Redtigerxyz Talk 16:32, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
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