Template:Did you know nominations/Earnest Andersson
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 15:45, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
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Earnest Andersson
- ... that Igor Stravinsky said of the death of his student, Earnest Andersson (pictured), that it "just shows I shouldn't teach"? Source: In Stravinsky in the Americas: Transatlantic Tours and Domestic Excursions from Wartime Los Angeles (1925–1935) by H. Colin Slim, p. 240
- ALT1: ... that Earnest Andersson (pictured) was, according to his son-in-law James Sample, a greater composer than Charles Ives? Source: In "Lessons with Stravinsky: The Notebook of Earnest Andersson (1878–1943)" by H. Colin Slim, p. 349, n. 87
- ALT2: ... that despite calling Earnest Andersson's (pictured) music "very, very idiotic", Igor Stravinsky may have envied his student's facility for composing melodies? Source: Ibid., pp. 350, 352
- ALT3: ... that the music of Earnest Andersson (pictured) was referred by Igor Stravinsky as being "very, very idiotic" and also having "good musical value"? Source: Ibid, pp. 347, 350
- ALT4: ... that Earnest Andersson (pictured) was a successful inventor, businessman, amateur athlete, race car driver, pilot, photographer, radio operator, pro golfer, and composer, despite little formal education? Source: Ibid., pp. 330, 332, 336
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hilda Hilst
- Comment:
QPQ later.Trying to find a PD image of Andersson to add into the article. If I find one, expect to see it added to this DYK nom.Added PD image.QPQ coming later today.Done!
Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:10, 19 October 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Earnest Andersson; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Interesting substantial article, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed but doesn't work well with the Stravinsky-based hooks as he was older when taught by him. I am not happy with the hooks, but will approve the original if we can't agree on something else. My problem with it is that is says very little about the subject. The hook saying most about him is ALT4, but that is almost too rich, - how about mentioning fewer items with a bit more weight, such as the patents for packaging machines making him a millionaire, accomplished amateur athlete, professional golfer, amateur photographer of Hollywood film stars? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
- The lede says he was "born to a Swedish immigrant father". No mention of the mother? Kablammo (talk) 11:41, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- No. She was American, possibly of non-immigrant stock. Slim doesn't elaborate or clarify. What you see in the article is all he gives. Andersson never seemed to mention his mother—it was his father's heritage that he repeatedly expressed pride in. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 16:17, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- The lede says he was "born to a Swedish immigrant father". No mention of the mother? Kablammo (talk) 11:41, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Thanks for taking the time to review this! There's enough material to come up with more ALTs, which I can present tomorrow. ALT4 is a bit much, but paradoxically I felt that was part of its appeal—Earnest was nothing if not a prodigious achiever! As for their angle, I know you prefer informative ALTs, but I prefer something that grabs a reader's attention. By the way, it's fine by me if you prefer to omit the image. Was trying to find PD images of him in later life, but I'm unsure of whether the one I found would qualify. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. Offline sources accepted AGF. I approve ALT4. However, I - as a reader - would be more impressed by him photographing Hollywood stars then just "photographer", - I mean: a few pinnacles might show him better than a long list of unspecific things. I understand that you have little time, and this is just for a day, so perhaps not worth the effort. Up to you. The image shows him better than all our little sentences could, even his musical ambition ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- It's no problem at all. If you can wait until tomorrow, I think I can wring a couple more ALTs for your consideration. :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 07:29, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- I can wait, promoters also wait then, please ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- It's no problem at all. If you can wait until tomorrow, I think I can wring a couple more ALTs for your consideration. :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 07:29, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
