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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 19:26, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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Costello's

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  • Source: Batterberry, Michael; Batterberry, Ariane (1999) [First published 1973 by Scribner: New York]. On the Town in New York: The Landmark History of Eating, Drinking, and Entertainments from the American Revolution to the Food Revolution (25th anniversary special ed.). New York: Routledge. p. 275. ISBN 978-0-415-92020-9 – via Google Books; Bruccoli, Matthew J. (1995) [First published 1975]. The O'Hara Concern: A Biography of John O'Hara. University of Pittsburgh Press. p. 172. ISBN 978-0-8229-5559-7 – via Google Books.
Created by Voorts (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

voorts (talk/contributions) 01:39, 18 July 2024 (UTC).

  • The article, being a Good Level article, is long enough and properly uses in-line citations. It was passed today, so is new enough for requirements. The hook is interesting and is nominally referenced, but I run across a problem with it and your second reference used. According to The O'Hara Concern, the interaction with Hemingway ended with "Hemingway took the bet and said, "Not only that, but I'm going to break it over my own head". So he didn't break the blackthorn staff over O'Hara's head, but his own. Perhaps you misunderstood the line just after where it said O'Hara was "painfully pounded", but that was referring to Hemingway pounding him on the back when he walked over. SilverserenC 22:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
    • @Silver seren:: I believe The O'Hara Concern is the only source that tells the story that way. Every other source states that Hemingway broke the cane over O'Hara's head. I've moved that into a footnote. Thank you for bringing that up. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
      • Okay, that looks good. And the QPQ has been done already. Everything's good to go! SilverserenC 22:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Alternative hook with added detail that adds more color to the story: ... that Ernest Hemingway broke a blackthorn cane over John O'Hara's head in Costello's, a New York City Irish bar, and that Costello's owner displayed the broken cane over the bar? The wording could probably use some workshopping. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Just to note for future 4A purposes that I nominated this as a newly-created article, but it was promoted to GA before it could be reviewed here. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:36, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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