Template:Did you know nominations/Constance Peel

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 11:40, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Constance Peel

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... that, after losing a child, journalist and author Mrs. C. S. Peel abandoned writing to sell hats, but started up again after ill health forced her to close her shop?

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nominated at 20:07, 29 January 2014 (UTC).

Reviewed against the criteria:

Article nominated same day as creation
Long enough: 3994 characters (647 words) "readable prose size"
Within policy – meets core policies and guidelines:

neutral
cites sources with inline citations

→although there is one citation per paragraph, I will assume good faith on the offline citations; if you can add more citations that would be great

free of close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism

→although another editor raised copyvio and paraphrasing concerns, these do not appear to be borne out when checked

Hook is 148 characters, is interesting and it meets formatting guidelines, however:

→the hook should have an inline citation immediately after it to save readers having to check which citation it might be

→it might be better to change from a piped link to just the article name being linked

→I also think you've got room in the hook to add that she was a writer

QPQ – will wait for you to review another nomination

Well written article needing maybe a couple more sources, an inline citation for the hook, tweak or two to the hook wording and a QPQ review. Green Giant (talk) 23:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. I'm not really clear why you feel the article needs more sources- are you unhappy with the sources cited? I've added a footnote as you asked, and modified the hook. I disagree with changing the piped link- she wrote under that name, and, in any case, gives a good feel for the kind of thing she was writing. J Milburn (talk) 23:35, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response, despite the disclaimer in your talkpage. The hook citation is fine and the rewording is good. Leaving it as a piped link is fine by me, I just thought maybe sticking to one name or the other. The reason I mentioned more sources is that the article has four citations, if which three are offline and one requires subscription. There's not a whole lot for readers to go on, so a couple more online accessible sources would be good. Also, unless I am mistaken, you have several DYK credits, and therefore we need your review of another nominee. Green Giant (talk) 00:05, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Richard Feilden J Milburn (talk) 17:05, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. I have added google book links for two of the sources. Green Giant (talk) 19:19, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Would all involved be happy to move this to International women's day on March 8 Victuallers (talk) 23:18, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Great idea! J Milburn (talk) 23:40, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

~~Are you sure there are no copyvios? It is discussed in my talk page. --George Ho (talk) 02:16, 31 January 2014 (UTC)~~

Oh well, many say that there is no copyvio, so let's go for their word against mine. George Ho (talk) 04:12, 31 January 2014 (UTC)