Template:Did you know nominations/Clayton & Black

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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 03:31, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Clayton & Black, First Church of Christ, Scientist (Brighton), Gwydyr Mansions, 155–158 North Street, Brighton, 163 North Street, Brighton

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• Clayton & Black
• First Church of Christ, Scientist (Brighton)
• Gwydyr Mansions
• 155–158 North Street, Brighton
• 163 North Street, Brighton

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• ... that prolific Brighton architects Clayton & Black's works include churches, mansion flats, banks, cinemas and their "chef d'œuvre"—a pink granite insurance office (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Three hooks/four articles done: Clay Beauford, Silvio and Blair Athol horses, and Fred Barron
• Comment: All created between 30 December 2011 and 2 January 2012. For 155–158 North Street, Brighton, the online ref incorrectly attributes the building to another architect, as noted in the article. All offline sources confirm it's C&B's work. ←←(UPDATE: As of 4 January 2012, English Heritage have corrected this ref, and it now attributes the building correctly to C&B. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 08:37, 5 January 2012 (UTC))

Created/expanded by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 20:17, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

• I will be reviewing this in stages, probably one for each of the five articles --NSH001 (talk) 22:14, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

• hook - length and format OK, plenty of citations to support the hook (AGF for book refs)
• image - free licence, alt text in hook, appears in both relevant articles, all OK
• all articles - are sufficiently new
• general comment - the many book refs mean I am unable to check for plagiarism or accurate summary of citations, but given this editor's long record of contributions on similar topics, I have little doubt they will be fine.

• 163 North Street, Brighton
  • length OK, book refs accepted AGF, well-referenced
  • little niggle: I dislike the ugly "as of" in the lede. Should be re-phrased, but this is just my personal preference.
• 155–158 North Street, Brighton
  • length OK, book refs accepted AGF, well-referenced
• Gwydyr Mansions
  • length OK, book refs accepted AGF, well-referenced
  • "Goldsmid's descendants owned the site; they transferred it in 1890". This puzzled me: who did they transfer it to and why? Was it a sale to the chuch or pastor?
• First Church of Christ, Scientist (Brighton)
  • length OK, book refs accepted AGF, well-referenced
• Clayton & Black
  • length OK, book refs accepted AGF, well-referenced
  • Lede - "pink Baroque-style head office for the Royal Assurance Society" - I doubt it was the Royal's head office, which, as far as I am aware, was in Liverpool until the merger with Sun Alliance in 1996
  • Hannington's Depository - neither do I think this was L&G's head office.

• - a few queries to be addressed, see above. --NSH001 (talk) 00:30, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your review and the copyediting of the articles. I will check the land transfer details when I get home (~10 hours); other changes have been made as suggested (Diff 1; Diff 2). Cheers, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 08:41, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

This diff shows the rewording on Gwydyr Mansions. The ref is not explicit on how the land was acquired, although the implication is that it was bought by the pastor. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 20:43, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

... a rich cleric, by the sound of it! OK, that's good enough for me.

• All good to go now, in my opinion. --NSH001 (talk) 21:02, 19 January 2012 (UTC)