Template:Did you know nominations/Christiane Floyd
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The result was: promoted by Jolly Ω Janner 20:21, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
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Christiane Floyd
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Christiane Floyd
... that Christiane Floyd (pictured) was the first professor of computer science in Germany?
- Reviewed: 1978–79 Australian region cyclone season
- Comment: May need to be a AGF review, citation of hook is in German: "Sie war die erste Informatik-Professorin Deutschlands." (Die Zeit) --Canley (talk) 04:52, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Created by Canley (talk). Self-nominated at 04:52, 5 January 2016 (UTC).
Well-cited... almost. I fixed the sources. However, one info is not in any of sources given. The article is long enough. Sources are reliable. Unsure about the hook. I'm trying my best to translate German. It doesn't say that she was the first woman in a German university unless I misread. George Ho (talk) 19:41, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, sorry, this was my mistake: there were two references from Die Zeit, and the citation that Floyd was the first CS professor in Germany was in the other one, I have fixed the references now—it's in the first paragraph: "Sie war die erste Informatik-Professorin Deutschlands" = "She was the first computer science professor in Germany". I have also added a reference for the Maestro I development and demonstration at the Siemens trade show. --Canley (talk) 21:04, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
All issues resolved. Again, everything is fine, including sources, hook and length. I hope no one else contradicts this. George Ho (talk) 21:13, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- I think this would be a great hook to feature on International Women's Day (8 March). I can add it to the special occasion holding area if you agree. Jolly Ω Janner 03:05, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
I have reopened this discussion per WT:DYK#Error in Prep 4. She was the first female such professor, not the first overall. Fram (talk) 15:44, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Adding icon so the hook isn't promoted again while the identified issue remains, and striking the hook just to be sure. Canley, if it's female, then just propose an ALT1 with that key word added to the original wording, though the reviewer should check to be sure that this is true according to the sources and that Fram's objections have been covered. You can also propose an alternate hook. If this is done quickly enough, there's still room in Preps 4 or 5 for International Women's Day; if not, it can always run during the rest of Women's History Month. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:06, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- I am happy to go with "ALT1 ... that Christiane Floyd (pictured) was the first female professor of computer science in Germany?" as cited. Die Zeit is an established broadsheet (it's basically German for The Times) that has a typical strong record of factual accuracy of that type of newspaper. The source further says "Christiane Floyd ist in vielerlei Hinsicht eine Pionierin" which I translate as "Christiane Floyd is in every respect a (female) pioneer". I'll happily defer to @Gerda Arendt: who will give you an expert native speaker translation of the source on request, but I can't think of any reason to doubt the factual accuracy of what I propose here. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:15, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- Confirmed, "Professorin" is a female professor, while "Professor" can be a male or a female, but is used more for men. Both are academic titles in Germany, perhaps a capital P could distinguish from other meanings of professor in English? Or a link? - If you meat her, you would say Frau Professor F.. If you mention her title in writing, you have "Prof. F.", spoken "professor", not professorin ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:34, 4 March 2016 (UTC)