Template:Did you know nominations/Cherry Valentine

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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 02:47, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Cherry Valentine

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• ... that Cherry Valentine is the only drag queen of Romani heritage to appear on the Drag Race franchise created by RuPaul? Source: https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2022/09/25/drag-queen-cherry-valentine-anti-drag-arguments/, https://www.them.us/story/cherry-valentine-george-ward-drag-race-uk-star-nurse-and-advocate-dies-at-28
  • ALT1: ... that Cherry Valentine hid his Romanichal heritage because he feared he might receive "hate or backlash"? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/d631f4cb-8f13-472e-a94a-5a0f873187e2
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Enriqueta Legorreta
  • Comment: Article appeared on ITN as a recent death so it doesn't count towards the 1 year bold link rule.

Improved to Good Article status by Another Believer (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 22:20, 18 January 2023 (UTC).

• This looks like it's well written and well sourced. I prefer the first one, since it gives readers more context. Could we just say RuPaul's Drag Race, as the common name? Shooterwalker (talk) 23:53, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
  • Drive-by comment (I approved the GA) for Shooterwalker: I suspect the reason the hook has been written this way is because RuPaul is not involved or named in every international version and the hook covers all international versions. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:04, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
    • That was my intuition too. Let's have Onegreatjoke check back in. I might prefer the text to say "The (X) edition of RuPaul's Drag Race", but the current text might be fine. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:07, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
      • @Onegreatjoke: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:17, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

If preferred, we can just say RuPaul's Drag Race in the hook. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:19, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

I think it will read better that way. We could always redirect it to whichever edition is appropriate. Shooterwalker (talk) 17:01, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

• Full review still needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

 Reviewing... Flibirigit (talk) 15:31, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - ?
• Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article promoted to GA status on January 15, and nominated within seven days. Length is adequate. Article is neutral in tone, and no plagiarism was detected. ALT0 could be interesting to a broad audience, and is properly mentioned in the article. ALT0 fails verification since the sources say he was the first Romani contestant, not the only one. ALT1 is more interesting, but fails verification since the term Romanichal appears nowhere in this article. Without similar words being used, it will get mentioned at WP:ERRORS and needs clarification. Image of Valentine is appropriately licensed as fair use. QPQ requirement is complete. Overall the article will be a welcome addition to DYK with some minor attention. Flibirigit (talk) 15:54, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

@Flibirigit: Can I suggest a slight tweak:

• • ALT1b: ... that Cherry Valentine hid his Romani heritage because he feared he might receive "hate or backlash"?
  • ALT1c: ... that Cherry Valentine hid his English Traveller heritage because he feared he might receive "hate or backlash"?

BuySomeApples (talk) 04:56, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

I struck ALT0 since it fails verification as per my above comment. I struck ALT1 and ALT1b since the wording "Romani/Romanichat" is different from the source with specifically says "Traveller". ALT1c is approved since it is properly mentioned, interesting and verified. Flibirigit (talk) 13:45, 26 February 2023 (UTC)