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The result was: promoted by ssт✈(discuss) 14:23, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
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Cello Concerto (Waterhouse)
[edit]- ... that Graham Waterhouse, who played the solo part in his Cello concerto in Mexico in 1995, performed it at his university in Cambridge?
- Reviewed: Riobamba (nightclub)
- Comment: best on 28 November, when it will be performed in London
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:39, 21 November 2015 (UTC).
- New enough, as 6.4X expanded on November 20. It is more than long enough at 4k bytes of prose. Article written in a neutral, dispassionate manner. Each paragraph has at least one inline citation supporting claims. No close paraphrasing or other copyvio issues detected. Hook is within policy length and interest. Hook is neutral. Unfortunately, I can't find the reference for the 1995 performance in Mexico of this composition, either in the cited source or any of the others. QPQ complete.
- Thanks for diligent looking! I added a ref for Mexico. Cambridge is in the program of the orchestra, #8, while the other (#5) is one of several saying that he studied in Cambridge. What do you think - based on [1] - of something like:
- ALT1:
... that after Graham Waterhouse performed as the soloist of his Cello concerto in Switzerland, Mexico, Siberia and Germany, he plays it today in London where he was born? - ... which would be more interesting mentioning the 25 years between first and that one. We could also wait until afterwards. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:50, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- ALT1 contains facts not in the article. (Siberia?) I like the idea of running this hook on the day of performance, but I think that would need to be cited to an extra-strong, independent source to avoid any appearance of promotional-ism. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:39, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- Just a thought. Let's drop ALT1 then, but it was what finally made me fill the old red link ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- Closer, but two things remain. First, the source only says has works commissioned by the Mexican orchestra, there's no way to tell that this particular Cello Concerto was performed by them. Second, the article doesn't state that Waterhouse was the soloist at the Cambridge performance. Your source makes that explicit, so here you just need to update the article to match the hook and the source. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 02:44, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- There's the program book of the concert - ref 3, offline, sorry. Fixed the other by repetition ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:57, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- There's the program book of the concert with the date - ref 3, offline, sorry. Fixed the other by repetition ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- Closer, but two things remain. First, the source only says has works commissioned by the Mexican orchestra, there's no way to tell that this particular Cello Concerto was performed by them. Second, the article doesn't state that Waterhouse was the soloist at the Cambridge performance. Your source makes that explicit, so here you just need to update the article to match the hook and the source. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 02:44, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- Just a thought. Let's drop ALT1 then, but it was what finally made me fill the old red link ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- ALT1 contains facts not in the article. (Siberia?) I like the idea of running this hook on the day of performance, but I think that would need to be cited to an extra-strong, independent source to avoid any appearance of promotional-ism. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:39, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- All issues noted above resolved, offline source accepted AGF. This is good to go. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:21, 25 November 2015 (UTC)