Template:Did you know nominations/Cefnllys Castle
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 15:54, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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Cefnllys Castle
- that a dispute between Llywelyn ap Gruffudd and Roger Mortimer over the rebuilding of Cefnllys Castle was one of the factors that led to Edward I's conquest of Wales?
Sources: Sorry this is going to be long because the lead up to the war was complicated, and each historian discusses Cefnllys within their explanation. I include extracts here because they're all behind paywalls
- Smith, 1998: "[Cefnllys was] one of the most sensitive issues left unresolved" (p.361) "The main matter of contention was undoubtedly Cefnllys... Llywelyn now registered his mounting concern that [Mortimer] was preparing to contest possession of a vital area of the march. Clare, Bohun, Mortimer: it was the third of these who posed the greatest threat to the fragile state of equilibrium" (p.362) "The situation deteriorated year by year and ... Sooner or later the [existing peace treaty] would be devoid of meaning. (p.363)
- Davies, 2000: "Roger Mortimer likewise set about ... rebuilding the castle at Cefnllys and doing so, according to Llywelyn, on a scale quite unwarranted by the terms of the Treaty of 1267. These individual confrontations ... cumulative effect, especially as the years passed, was to create in Llywelyn's mind a suspicion that there was an orchestrated attempt to undermine his hard-won gains, especially in the middle March, and to subvert the terms of the Treaty of 1267 ... he could hardly avoid the suspicion that the royal government ... increasingly acquiesced in, and possibly supported, the activities of Clare, Bohun, Mortimer ... by autumn 1270 Llywelyn was warning that since the Treaty was not being honoured, he might be compelled to ignore it; by February 1274 he was linking his failure to pay the instalments of the tribute due to the king directly with the failure of the Marchers ‘to restore to Llywelyn the lands by them unjustly occupied" (pp. 322–323)
- Prestwich 1997: "There was trouble between the Welsh prince and Roger Mortimer. Llywelyn claimed that Mortimer's castle-building activities in Maelienydd went beyond what was permitted by the Treaty of Montgomery, and that his own claims to the land, acknowledged in the treaty, had not been heard. In these circumstances, Llywelyn was not prepared to continue payment of the money under the terms of the treaty." (p.174) Further summonses were issued by Edward ... Llywelyn steadfastly refused to attend, and the sums due under the terms of the Treaty of Montgomery remained unpaid." (p.175)
- ALT1: that a dispute between the last independent Prince of Wales, Llywelyn ap Gruffudd, and Roger Mortimer over the rebuilding of Cefnllys Castle was one of the factors that led to the conquest of Wales?
- Review (not required) Bob Hindmarch
5x expanded by Jr8825 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:49, 30 September 2020 (UTC).
This well-written and impressive expansion is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Thank you for doing a QPQ. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:18, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
