Template:Did you know nominations/Capa House

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 01:26, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Capa House

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Capa House in December 2015

... that at Capa House (pictured), photographer Robert Capa took pictures of the last man to die in World War II? Source: https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ea23f5_5f03d31716f84cf8ab42629feef0b8ea~mv2_d_2606_1841_s_2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1560,h_1102,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/ea23f5_5f03d31716f84cf8ab42629feef0b8ea~mv2_d_2606_1841_s_2.webp
- ALT1: ... that the last man to die in the Second World War was photographed at Capa House? Source: https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ea23f5_5f03d31716f84cf8ab42629feef0b8ea~mv2_d_2606_1841_s_2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1560,h_1102,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/ea23f5_5f03d31716f84cf8ab42629feef0b8ea~mv2_d_2606_1841_s_2.webp
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John Hoke III
- Comment: Should I also review another nomination, or is the re-review of John Hoke III acceptable?

Created by Andreas Wolf 01 (talk). Nominated by Paul2520 (talk) at 16:23, 28 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Capa House; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - other

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Andreas Wolf 01 and Paul2520: Good article but some problems. Firstly, the hooks used aren't actually mentioned and cited in the body but rather in the lead and it needs to be cited in the lead. Second, is bowman really the last person to die in ww2? Because it seems like that's just the name of the photo and not that he actually was the last person to die. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:47, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke and Andreas Wolf 01: I believe I fixed the citation-related issues; see the updated history section.

How about an alternate hook?

ALT2: ... that at Capa House (pictured), photographer Robert Capa captured The Picture of the Last Man to Die, of American soldier Raymond J. Bowman? Source: pages 40B-C at https://books.google.com/books?id=CUoEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA40B&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

Let me know what you think! = paul2520 💬 14:02, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:17, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

I think it's fine now. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:19, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

@Paul2520 and Onegreatjoke: This article is badly in need of copyediting. It was created as a copypasted Google translation, and the prose hasn't been much tidied since. Some examples: A triple-redundancy in the second sentence with Capa photographed the photo The Picture of the Last Man to Die, and then a strange reference to this photo as the recordings. Some odd tenses scattered throughout, eg. so that the events ... are not forgotten, an exhibition room ... has been commemorating them. The long sentence beginning For the occasion... ends in an ungrammatical non-sequitur. Some newspaper-style reporting: "Corona destroyed our café in the Capa House," explained tenant Thomas Eigler. A couple of expressions I don't understand: monument-compliant renovation and reform style architecture. For the latter phrase, the German article links to de:Reformarchitektur which doesn't have an en-wiki equivalent, so the expression should be explained for an English-speaking audience.
The sources were also copypasted from the German article, so I'd like to know if these have been checked out by a German-language speaker. Some of them appear to be self-published or otherwise unreliable, and at least one is a dead link. Onegreatjoke, I see you gave a tick for adequate sourcing and free from copyvio; can I ask whether that was an AGF or did you check the sources personally? Thanks. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 08:30, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
I had AGFed as I'm not sure how to check the reliability of non english sources. Sorry for my bad review. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:00, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
No worries, just remember to use {{subst:DYKtickAGF}} to make that clearer for latecoming nitpickers like myself. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 07:00, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

@Sojourner in the earth: thanks for the suggestions. I can't believe I missed some of these, but they should be fixed now.

CC: Onegreatjoke. = paul2520 💬 17:19, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Pinging Sojourner in the earth to re-assess the article. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 15:46, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Paul2520 has done a great job with the copyediting, but it still bothers me that nobody involved in this nomination is able to read the German sources. So I'm not prepared to sign off on this myself, but I won't stand in the way if someone else thinks it's good to go. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 16:55, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
it's not a great system, but we usually AGF on foreign language sources – I'll offer a tick per that. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 17:09, 25 April 2023 (UTC)