Template:Did you know nominations/Bill Dunn (Pilbara elder)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet talk 13:07, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
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Bill Dunn (Pilbara elder)
- ... that Bill Dunn, an Indigenous Australian pastoralist approaching retirement, sold his station at half-price to the Jigalong community? Source: When Robertson Range, too, became difficult for Dunn to manage, Dunn sold it at half the value to the traditional land owners, even though there were several full-price offers from non-Indigenous people wanting the station. [1]
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Improved to Good Article status by Jack4576 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:04, 19 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bill Dunn (Pilbara elder); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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@Jack4576: Good article. While the hook isn't that interesting on it's own, mentioning that non-Indigenous people were offering full price in the hook would make it more interesting for me to approve. Also, this isn't for DYK but is he dead? The article doesn't really explain his life past the 1980s or mention any possible death. Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:25, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks User:Onegreatjoke. I don’t see how it matters whether the actual purchasers offered full price or not. What matters is that he had the option of selling it to third parties at full price, but chose instead to make an offer at half-price to the traditional owner.
- Could “was the first indigenous cattle station owner in Western Australia?” be a better alternative hook?
- The article focuses mostly on his career rather than his personal life; because that’s what’s detailed in the available sources. Yes he’s passed but it was after the publication of the book and i’ve yet to locate an obituary (or other RS) for the death date. Jack4576 (talk) 08:28, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Jack4576: Then the death issue is fine. though, your alternative hook suggestion would work well so I'd advise you make that into a full hook. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Onegreatjoke, I've found a location in the book where it is mentioned that non-indigenous people were in fact offering the full price. Page 70 reads: "Word quickly spread that the station was on the market. Offers came in, from neighbouring pastoralists and others willing to pay full market price. Bill, however, wanted the Jigalong people to have it. After all, it was really their parna (own country). ... So, for the "Jigalong Mob", he halved the price. It was still a problem but they found the money". Would this be sufficient? I'll add it to the article. Jack4576 (talk) 03:40, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Jack4576: Maybe I didn't make it clear but I wasn't disputing that fact. I was simply asking for the hook to mention that non-indigenous people offered at full price or for you to use that alt hook you suggested. Onegreatjoke (talk) 01:09, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Ah, I see, in that case can I suggest the book be reworded to: “that Bill Dunn, an Indigenous Australian pastoralist approaching retirement, sold his station at half-price to the Jigalong community after receiving full-price offers from non-indigenous people?” Jack4576 (talk) 11:48, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
I think that's fine. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:29, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Ah, I see, in that case can I suggest the book be reworded to: “that Bill Dunn, an Indigenous Australian pastoralist approaching retirement, sold his station at half-price to the Jigalong community after receiving full-price offers from non-indigenous people?” Jack4576 (talk) 11:48, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Jack4576: Maybe I didn't make it clear but I wasn't disputing that fact. I was simply asking for the hook to mention that non-indigenous people offered at full price or for you to use that alt hook you suggested. Onegreatjoke (talk) 01:09, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
