Template:Did you know nominations/Arlene Hiss
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 00:04, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
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Arlene Hiss
[edit]... that after becoming the first woman to race in the series, Champ Car drivers threatened a boycott if "dangerously slow" Arlene Hiss was allowed to compete again?
Source: "first woman ever to enter a U.S. Auto Club championship car race"; "USAC drivers threatened in 1976 to boycott an event at Trenton, N.J., because they felt inexperienced newcomer Arlene Hiss had been dangerously slow at Phoenix.".
- Reviewed: RR is a new editor; TBR: Lena Machado
Created by Rhino Ryan (talk) and The Bushranger (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 23:03, 11 November 2017 (UTC).
@Rhino Ryan and The Bushranger: I have a concern over the wording of the hook. When I first read it, I thought the Champ Car drivers threatened a boycott of the race series because she was a woman allowed to compete. On inspecting the the article and source, it was because she was viewed as "dangerously slow". This likely needs to be reworded in order to avoid the confusion. ℯxplicit 13:41, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- Explicit Given the time, it was a little bit of both. I figured the ambiguity in this case was a good thing, but I've added two words to the hook though, is that better? - The Bushranger One ping only 22:51, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, I think this best reflects what the source states. So, now:
- The article is new enough (created November 8 UTC)
- It is long enough (prose exceeds 3,000 characters)
- It is within policy (neutral, cites sources, and no plagiarism was detected)
- The hook is under 200 characters
- Is it interesting and now accurate
- The nominator (The Bushranger) with more than five DYK submissions reviewed another candidate
- The hook is rather negative for a BLP. I think you should come up with something else. Yoninah (talk) 22:55, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Yoninah:This is a case of "this is what she is most notable for". That said, if you think ALT1 below would be better, then that's cool (and meaningful for anyone who knows orney ol' A.J.!). - The Bushranger One ping only 00:22, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- ALT1: ...that A. J. Foyt praised Arlene Hiss for "what a fine job [she'd] done" after racing against her?
Yes, thanks, that's much better. ALT1 hook ref verified and cited inline. Rest of review per Explicit. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 00:26, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- I don't see the fact that A.J.Foyt had raced against her mentioned in the article or source. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:26, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: Foyt won the Texas race she finished 9th in. [1] - The Bushranger One ping only 06:47, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- To meet the DYK requirements, that fact needs to be included in the article, so I have added it there and replaced the tick here. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:06, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: Fair enough. I'd already added it though, futher up in a more natural place - that should be enough? - The Bushranger One ping only 07:38, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, I missed your change and have removed mine. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:58, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Not a problem! Thanks for catching that. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:21, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
