Template:Did you know nominations/Algo Centre Mall
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- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
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Algo Centre Mall
[edit]- ... that Algo Centre Mall featured a rooftop parking lot, before the roof collapsed in June 2012, killing 2?
- Reviewed: The Show Where Sam Shows Up
- Comment: The article failed to make front page as part of ITN, but it has passed GA already, just days in. The article was created from scratch June 25.
Created/expanded by Zanimum (talk), Acebulf (talk). Nominated by Zanimum (talk) at 23:46, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that collapsed mall Algo Centre Mall was built for the Algoma Central Railway, during the height of uranium mining in northern Ontario?
- ALT2: ... that one of the dead in the Algo Centre Mall mall collapse worked only one day a week at the lottery booth where she died.
- ALT3: ... that concerns with the structural integrity of the newly collapsed Algo Centre Mall have existed for decades?
- For Alt 2 only. Alt 1 is not confirmed, as there is no inline sources statement I can see that states that it was constructed during the height of the uranium mining boom. In addition, the related statement that it was completed in 1979 misquotes the source, which simply states that the company had said they would complete it by 1979, not whether it was actually completed on that date. Alt 3 is not confirmed, as the source that is cited for the statement that structural concerns have existed since 1990 does not mention 1990. It seems instead to confirm only leaks going back to 2008 or so. And the following statement citing the 1996 report focuses on aesthetic rather than structural criticisms. As to the original hook, I don't see a statement in the article that explicitly states that it has a rooftop parking lot. The image seems to be free use. Tomsimlee (talk) 18:15, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- If there's that many problems with sourcing this should not be on the main page. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:48, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
- To be fair, I am nit-picking some of this. The article was expanded with some rapidity, and likely needs a thorough going-over in regards to the justifiability of statements in the article based on the sources provided. Tomsimlee (talk) 12:57, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review.
- Hook: I've added a direct mention of the rooftop parking now.
- ALT1: Turns out it was a second wave of prosperity that triggered Algo, not the actual height of mining.
- ALT3: I've added a second reference to that statement, in the article, specifically mentioning 1990. (The original lone reference was a case of substraction.)
- I've moved the quote about the aesthetic of the building into the history section. It was originally part of a "building" section, talking about the design of the structure, from which the early structural problems were a subsection.
- As for the article stating it was finished in 1979, when the document only says it was expected that year, the article says it was to be completed the next year, in 1980. Perhaps it has been changed since your review? -- Zanimum (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
- Still several bare urls, which should not be in DYK articles per the supplementary guidelines. Please format these. Also, the article should not state definitely that the 1979-1980 thing is true, since the source is not definite. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:28, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
- To be fair, I am nit-picking some of this. The article was expanded with some rapidity, and likely needs a thorough going-over in regards to the justifiability of statements in the article based on the sources provided. Tomsimlee (talk) 12:57, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
- Bare URLs not dealt with, and the 1979/1980 thing is still there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:10, 15 July 2012 (UTC)