Template:Did you know nominations/Alexandrine Marie Agathe Gavaudan-Ducamel
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The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 17:16, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
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Alexandrine Marie Agathe Gavaudan-Ducamel
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Madame Gavaudan portrayed in 1820
- ... that Madame Gavaudan (pictured), a soprano of the Opéra Comique in Paris, created the role of Benjamin in Méhul's Joseph? [1] for the role, and others
- Reviewed: Catherine Hurlin
- Comment: We'd have room for the longish real name if wanted. We have an image of her in the boy's costume in the opera article, in case of interest.
Created by Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:05, 23 March 2021 (UTC).
Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced and neutrally written. The hook is interesting, I prefer "Madame Gavaudan" as written. Image is appropriately licensed and looks great at 100px, I hope it's used. Gerda Arendt, one question: could you add a citation for "soprano" to the article? I see it in the Kutsch reference so this should be pretty minor. Thanks, DanCherek (talk) 21:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review, and ref duplicated. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:16, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt and Voceditenore, I was going to promote this one today, but I have a question. Surely the writer of the opera "created the role", not the singer. Can we come up with a more appropriate word for what this soprano did? MeegsC (talk) 11:10, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- I said the same thing years ago, but no, as Voceditenore explained, this is the usual opera speek. Anything else would be longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- see for history --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:20, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- It is standard opera terminology to refer to the first singer to have sung a particular role, i.e. in the opera's world premiere, as the singer who created the role. Examples from authoritative texts: [2], [3], [4]. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:55, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt and Voceditenore, I was going to promote this one today, but I have a question. Surely the writer of the opera "created the role", not the singer. Can we come up with a more appropriate word for what this soprano did? MeegsC (talk) 11:10, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
