Template:Did you know nominations/Ad Fontes Media

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:44, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Ad Fontes Media

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• ... that according to the Media Bias Chart, news sources on one political extreme or another are much more likely to contain factually incorrect information than ones in the middle?
  • ALT1:... that Vanessa Otero, creator of the Media Bias Chart, believes "extreme sources play on people’s worst instincts, like fear and tribalism, and take advantage of people’s confirmation biases"?

• Comment: I (Nablais) created the article and Newslinger helped expand it. This is my first submission to DYK.

Created by Nablais (talk) and Newslinger (talk). Nominated by Nablais (talk) at 01:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

• Thanks for submitting this, Nablais. I'm not sure about the main hook, since it appears to be based on an original reading of the chart itself. Ideally, hooks should be based on content in the article that is supported by a reliable secondary source. ALT1 is fine on reliability grounds, but I wonder if there is a way to paraphrase Otero's words. — Newslinger talk 08:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

  Source for ALT1: One of Otero's reasons for creating the organization was that "many sources people consider to be ‘news sources’ are actually dominated by analysis and opinion pieces," and that these "extreme sources play on people’s worst instincts, like fear and tribalism, and take advantage of people’s confirmation biases."

— Newslinger talk 08:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:23, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

The proposed hooks are both about a product, and offer no insight at all about the company which is the subject of the article in question. New hooks are needed here that focus on Ad Fontes Media. Flibirigit (talk) 07:01, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

How about:

• ALT2:... that Ad Fontes Media is the company behind the viral Media Bias Chart?

Comment: Not sure if you want "Media Bias Chart" to be bolded too if you want to focus on the company, but I could see either way considering they end up linking to the same place via redirect. Nablais (talk) 02:25, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

"Media Bias Chart" should not be bolded as Ad Fontes Media is the subject of the hook and the MBC link is just a redirect. In a hook there shouldn't be more than one link to the same article. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:41, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, changed. Nablais (talk) 02:44, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

In any case I don't think ALT2 is suitable either as it sounds promotional (with words such as "company behind" and "viral", which you can frequently find in advertisements). Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:52, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, how about something like:

ALT3:... that Vanessa Otero founded Ad Fontes Media after her Media Bias Chart became popular on Imgur?

Nablais (talk) 03:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

[[File:|120px|Version 2.0 of the Media Bias Chart (2017) ]]

Version 2.0 of the Media Bias Chart (2017)

Here are a few more suggestions:

• ALT4:... that after Ad Fontes Media rated InfoWars as "nonsense damaging to public discourse" on its Media Bias Chart (pictured), InfoWars responded with a heavily criticized chart that described the Associated Press as "tyranny"?
  • Source: Alex Jones, the founder of right-wing conspiracy theory site InfoWars, said Ad Fontes' chart represented the "dying dinosaur media's extreme liberal bias" after the chart classified InfoWars as "nonsense damaging to public discourse". InfoWars responded with a chart of their own, putting themselves as "independent" and representing "freedom" while labeling news sources like the Associated Press as "tyranny" and "state-run corporate/foreign influences"; InfoWars's chart was widely criticized by journalists on Twitter.
• ALT5:... that the founder of media watchdog organization Ad Fontes Media compared low-quality news sources to junk food?
  • Sources:
    • ...Otero founded Ad Fontes Media to serve as the publisher of the chart.
    • She compared low-quality sources to junk food, and described sources with extreme biases as "very toxic and damaging to the country".
• ALT6:... that Ad Fontes Media uses a panel of left-, center-, and right-leaning analysts to rate the political bias and reliability of news sources on its Media Bias Chart (pictured)?
  • Source: A panel of three reviewers (consisting of one left-, one center-, and one right-leaning analyst) scores the bias and reliability of each article evaluated for the chart.

I understand that the hook should focus on the organization, but the only documented role of the organization is to administer the Media Bias Chart. — Newslinger talk 08:25, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

• Full review needed now that new hooks have been proposed. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:44, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

• Approved for ALT 5 since it's the only one that I consider really hooky out of the bunch. Was new enough at time of creation, no close paraphrasing or copyvios, sourcing checks out.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 17:04, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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