Template:Did you know nominations/2018 Schoharie, New York limousine crash

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:44, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Schoharie limousine crash

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• ... that the stretch limousine involved in the recent crash near Schoharie, New York, had had its license plates switched between two inspections earlier this year? Source: "Records show the vehicles inspected on September 4 and March 21 had different license plates but the VIN numbers match and a source familiar with the inspections told ABC News the violations are indeed for the same vehicle. According to ABC News, authorities are probing why the same limousine was submitted for inspection with two different license plates." "Report: Limo in fatal Schoharie crash used two different license plates for inspection", WTEN; October 11, 2018
  • ALT1:... that the limousine crash near Schoharie, New York, was the deadliest transportation disaster in the U.S. since a 2009 plane crash outside Buffalo?Source: "Chairman Robert Sumwalt said the crash was "the most deadly transportation accident in this country since February 2009," when a plane crashed into a house outside Buffalo, New York, killing 49 people." "20 killed in horrific limousine crash in upstate New York", CBS News; October 7, 2018
  • ALT2:... that among the victims of the limousine crash near Schoharie, New York, were four sisters, three of their husbands and one of the husbands' brothers?The couple married in June. Axel's brother Rich and Amy's three sisters — Allison, Mary and Abby — and two of their husbands were also killed.; "Limo crash victims", Albany Times-Union; October 9, 2018

• Reviewed: Black Orchid (comic book)
• Comment: Yes, another failed ITN candidate, due to an AfD launched shortly after its creation (and now closed as keep, obviously, or I wouldn't have nominated this). Currently there's a possible renaming being discussed and the article is so tagged ... I think we can wait until it's closed. Daniel Case (talk) 03:07, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Created by Daniel Case (talk), Leaky.Solar (talk), InedibleHulk (talk), and WWGB (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 03:07, 15 October 2018 (UTC).

• @Daniel Case:​​​ Here is my review of this nomination:

General eligibility:

• New enough: - I'll take it. Based on UTC time, this article was nominated at 03:07, 15 October 2018 (UTC). This is a little over ten hours after the seven-day deadline, as calculated from 17:26, 7 October 2018‎ (UTC) (the first edit that isn't a hidden revision). Need to check this, though.
• Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting: - Prefer ALT1.
  • Honestly, ALT0 isn't very interesting. My father switched his car's New York license plates between inspections this year, so what's the point of this hook?
  • ALT2 is slightly more interesting, but it's eclipsed by the fact that this was the deadliest transport accident in the U.S. in a decade.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I'll check back after I ask about whether the nomination is new enough. I personally don't mind that it's been nominated a little over 10 hours past the first revision. I wouldn't want this nomination to be derailed because of "teh rulez" (i.e. bureaucracy). epicgenius (talk) 12:29, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: The implication is that the plates were changed in an attempt to fool the inspectors into thinking they were inspecting different vehicles rather than the same one. Since they also look at the VIN and take it down, it didn't work.

Given the ragged start, where the first version of the article was deleted and then recreated after a day (so it appears), as details of the accident became clearer, and then the article was subjected to an AfD for a few days (which to me should toll the time limit here), I am asking for some dispensation and flexibility. Daniel Case (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Daniel Case: OK then. If vehicle inspection fraud was the point, it looks like ALT0 might be interesting, but I think the detail about vehicle inspection fraud is kinda minor when this was the worst transportation accident in the U.S. in almost a decade. And I do think this article is eligible per the newness criteria, as it's still technically within the 7 day limit. So I will go ahead and approve it. epicgenius (talk) 22:30, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Fine. Daniel Case (talk) 04:22, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: If you were waiting for the move discussion to be settled to formally approve this, it was just closed. I have appropriately amended the nomination to reflect the shortened title. Daniel Case (talk) 18:28, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

@Daniel Case: I already added my tick of approval (it's in the review template, after "Overall"). But OK, here it is again . Hope this clarifies that this nomination with the new short title is approved. epicgenius (talk) 18:36, 25 October 2018 (UTC)