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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Jolly Ω Janner 22:14, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting

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  • ... that during his arrest, the perpetrator of the shooting at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood, where three were killed and nine injured, said in a "rambling" interview, "No more baby parts"?
  • ALT0: ... that during his arrest, the suspect of the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting, where three were killed and nine injured, said in a "rambling" interview, "No more baby parts"?
  • ALT1:... that during his arrest, the perpetrator of the shooting at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood, where three were killed and nine injured, said in an interview, "No more baby parts"?
  • ALT2:... that during his arrest, the perpetrator of the shooting at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood said in a "rambling" interview, "No more baby parts"?
  • ALT3:... that during his arrest, the perpetrator of the shooting at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood said in an interview, "No more baby parts"?
  • ALT1b:... that during his arrest, the suspect of the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting, where three were killed and nine injured, said in an interview, "No more baby parts"?
  • ALT2b:... that during his arrest, the suspect of the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting said in a "rambling" interview, "No more baby parts"?
  • ALT3b:... that during his arrest, the suspect of the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting said in an interview, "No more baby parts"?
  • Reviewed: Gärdslösa Church
  • Comment: Previously nominated as AfD, which ended as "kept". There are so many editors, so I went with those who edited the article at the time of creation.

Created by Ched (talk), Seagull123 (talk), and NorwayHS4 (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 06:24, 29 November 2015 (UTC).

Comment: This is not a review, but I am concerned that the hooks listed above may violate WP:BLP. These hooks mention a "perpetrator," but WP:BLPCRIME cautions against making any implications that a person has committed a crime until a conviction has been secured in a court of law ("A person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty and convicted by a court of law."). Additionally, according to the DYK rules, hooks that "focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided" (emphasis in original). Perhaps we can use one of these hooks instead:
Let me know what you think. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 21:48, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
I changed from perpetrator to suspect, Notecardforfree. George Ho (talk) 23:41, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Article was renamed to "Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting", so here are ALT4b and ALT5b:

Notecardforfree, I can strike out ALT4 and ALT5 if you allow me, so I can drop the "b" out. George Ho (talk) 23:22, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

George Ho, I went ahead and struck ALT4 and ALT5. Thanks for taking the initiative on this! Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 23:36, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
New enough, long enough. Hook short enough and sourced. No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found. QPQ done and image properly licensed. However, I would like to wait until the FfD on the suspect's image is closed before confirming this one way or another. Good to go.--Launchballer 13:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Which hook is approved? (The review uses "hook", singular, so I'm assuming it's only one.) The labelling is incredibly confusing, with both struck and unstruck hooks having the same name (which should never be done); I've added a "b" to all the duplicate ones, and an ALT0 to the alternate original hook. Launchballer, when you do approve the nomination after the image issue in the article is settled (I agree with the delay until it is), please be specific on the hook (or hooks) that are properly sourced, appear in the article, and are neutral and short enough. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:21, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Why should we wait until the image situation is done? The other discussion took forty-days. Shall we wait thirty more days until the discussion is closed? George Ho (talk) 03:26, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
  • We don't want to feature on the main page an article with a potentially problematic image. We typically hold AfDs until they're closed and also for merge proposals; it makes sense to hold for an FfD as well. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:02, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
  • The image is now deleted. Needs re-review. George Ho (talk) 04:17, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant to write "Any unstruck hook", but I was using Template:Did you know review and I was being dozy. Good to go.--Launchballer 07:58, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
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