Talk:Zadok

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Zadok which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 09:45, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

how do we participate?! (the link does not work!)--Marecheth Ho'eElohuth (talk) 19:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That was last year, when the title of the article was Zadok (High Priest). Dougweller (talk) 20:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We should move it back to Zadok (High Priest), and start using Zadok_(disambiguation) and the new Other Zadok's section I added on this article to keep things straight between the various Zadok's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bibleuspro (talk • contribs) 04:32, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I have made multiple insertions to the page along with numerous edit's, but much work is needed in terms of cleanup and 'removal of repetitive information', pls help if you can. I hope to be able to tidy up soon..--Marecheth Ho'eElohuth (talk) 23:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dead Sea Scrolls section

Seems to be blatant speculation based on a naïve perceived similarity between "zedek" and "tzadok". Rubbish! Propose to delete section as lacking citations, as being ridiculous and silly. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 12:45, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why not insert ^{[citation needed]}s and then, if demand is not met within a reasonable time, delete? PraeceptorIP (talk) 19:55, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Elkanah prophecy

The article says that the 1 Samuel 2:35 prophecy was by Elkanah. What is the support for identifying the prophet as Elkanah? It seems that the Bible only says "a man of God came to Eli and said to him..." in 1 Samuel 2:27. Cmcqueen1975 (talk) 02:58, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is a good point. I changed the article to use the passive tense without attribution to anybody, so that it is now neutral. Perhaps there should be a footnote to 1 Sam 2:27 and explanatory parenthetical. (?) PraeceptorIP (talk) 19:51, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Historicity of Zadok

I don't know much about this, but it interests me...Although it sounds like most scholars think Zadok existed, it would be good to have a section, or a couple sentences, addressing that. For example, what do scholarly bible skeptics like Israel Finkelstein think about Zadoks historicity? Rich (talk) 20:31, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The History of Zadok from the lineage or sons of Levi 1_Chronicles#6:1 is very interesting and Rich cites and excellent source,being Israel Finkelstein in a paper he cited ^[1] All of the DNA evidence shows that the pre-Israel and pre-Palestine or Canaanite region period have found to be each 50% or more of either Jewish or Arabic ethnicity.

This makes the issue of Zadok key, because King David appointed this pagan priest to help quail the Canaanite rebellion against the city of David which was the Canaanite fortress of Zion controlled by Jebus and not Jerusalem. The people of Jerusalem(This name from its Canaanite roots meaning the city of the pagan god of dusk Shalim ) hated King David with a passion(Need to find Hebrew Bible source, could not recall. But talked about them still performing festivities for the god of Venus also symbol of Shalim). But Zardok being a pagan priest(Gen:3:1 The priest of Midian were pagans also located near Mecca in Saudi Arabia)had kindred origins between both Jewish 1_Chronicles#6:1 and Arab ethnicity and worked to bring peace between these factions and was named King of Jerusalem of the Canaanites called Adonizedek from book of Joshua in Hebrew Bible^[2] . The point of contention that Israel Finkelstein brings, is that he was not strictly Jewish but of a mixed race. I would also agree, because the story of Levi who is the brother of Dinah, who killed the husbands and raped their women of the Canaanite city Shechem ^[3] and took the Arabian women as concubines (Gen:34:29) ^[4]. The Arab city with this event would begin not only the mixing of the Jewish and Arab DNA, but their entwined narratives and variations to create the tensions we see today. Icarusfactor (talk) 10:35, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

[1] ttps://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30487-6

[2] ttps://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0610.htm#1

[3] ttp://cojs.org/the-shechem-temple/

[4] ttps://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0134.htm

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