Talk:You Rang, M'Lord?

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Although I can believe he said this, it would be nice to have a reference for the statement:

This programme is said to be the 'Jewel in the Crown' of all David Croft's work. He said this himself in an interview in the early 90's.

Bob talk 19:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Quite new to Wiki, Want to suggest changes...

Hello

Please forgive me but I'm a newbie to Wiki and I want to be careful. I have a couple of suggestions about how this article could be improved, but I'm unsure of how to highlight them, I hope this is the correct way but if not I'm sure someone will be kind enough to tell me.

I don't want to just go ahead and edit the article as I think it's very well written and I want to just put my view out there and see what people think.

The part of the paragraph I find a little problematic is description of Cecily Meldrum.

Cecily (Cissy) Meldrum - Catherine Rabett Cissy is Lord Meldrum's oldest daughter. Although attractive, she dresses in a masculine style, takes part in men's sports and activities, such as flying, and appears to have the desires of a man, and her feminine "chum" Penelope, is a frequent house guest. Thus, although never explicitly stated, Cissy displays distinct lesbian tendencies, something which is not entirely obvious to her father[1][2].

Clearly, what is stated about the character is factually correct and is supported by references as required. However, I wonder if it could be expressed in a more neutral way. I don't want to be stifling politically correct, and I am absolutely certain the author did not intend to be in any way offensive but as articles are supposed to be neutral, it is probably best to state things about sexual orientation in a slightly more modern way.

I don't think that today it is considered quite polite to express a persons sexual orientation as representing "tendencies". I doubt the author would have expressed a heterosexual persons sexual feelings as being "tendencies". It would be more neutral to simply say "Cissy displays distinct lesbian feeelings", or simply "Cissy is clealry intended to be a lesbian character". This would keep the original meaning and still be just as accurate, whilst being more neutral.

Secondly, describing Cissy's feelings for women as "the desires of a man" is simply inaccurate because of course not all men do desire women - some men do not desire women but desire men instead. Lesbian's desires are desires of women, as lesbians are women and heterosexual men do not have a monopoly on having desires for women. So it might be more neutral to say she displays "lesbian desires" or simply "sexual desires for women which sugggests she may be a lesbian".

Any ideas? Am I going about this in the right way? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RSteve (talk • contribs) 23:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Steve, thanks for the message, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for bringing that issue up - you're probably right, I think. I imagine that I probably wrote that section a few years ago, and was probably just footing around the issue in the same way that the series does, in that it's never expressed in explicit terms, but merely hinted at through the character's behaviour, clothing, and various "nudge-nudge" type comments made by other characters in the series. But yes it probably ought to be a little more clear if it's to be encyclopedic, especially as her inclusion is quite a notable feature of the series in terms of "sitcom firsts". I'll have a go at making the edits you suggest, but do feel free to be bold and make any changes that you feel are needed yourself, and don't worry if you make any mistakes, as all previous revisions are stored. Bob talk 01:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Older/younger daughter

Like whomever wrote this article, I'd always assumed Cissy was the elder Meldrum sister (probably because she's portrayed as so much more mature than Poppy), but on watching the series on DVD recently there was a scene where Cissy was mistaken for a boy by a guest; Poppy corrects him and says Cissy is her 'little sister'. I can't remember the exact episode to reference it but I'm going to go ahead and make the change unless someone can find a source that says otherwise. Smurfmeister (talk) 09:29, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmm - I've recently re-watched the first episode, and Cissy refers to herself as the eldest. I'm now wondering if the party episode is a continuity error. 206.165.150.70 (talk) 08:30, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

It's the same episode. In the beginning of the episode, Lord Meldrum tells Cissy she should be supervising the servants because she's the eldest. Later in the episode, Poppy refers to Cissy as her little sister. It's either a continuity error or Poppy is using "little" as an endearment (probably the former). Exploding Boy (talk) 17:57, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

More a slight than an endearment, I'd say.

--92.217.213.181 (talk) 14:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

"Popular in Hungary"

This has been lingering around for some time:

The show has gained a large cult following in Hungary. Due to its high quality Hungarian dubbing and the lack of other comedy shows on TV in the early '90s, the show became very popular, and has been repeated since on various channels. Several phrases of the show (in their Hungarian translations) are now part of the popular vernacular in Hungary.

It would be nice to have a citation for it, really, even in Hungarian. ("Stop being so Hungarian about things, Granville"). I gather from a websearch that it's called "Csengettet, M'Lord?" in Hungary.[1] Is there anything about its popularity anywhere? Bob talk 13:52, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

This show was (and still is) extremely popular in Hungary compared to other sitcoms. All right, not on the top channels, but it is always on the sunday afternoon repeat list. I don't know any particular source about the popularity, but look at the hungarian comments on the facebook group, or the google search results. Agyalapi - 110722 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.21.127.141 (talk) 23:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment - since asking that, I've managed to find a book about the sitcom, so when I get bit of spare time, I'll probably add the sentence back with a suitable citation. Bob talk 14:57, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I confirm that this show is still popular in Hungary compared to other sitcoms. It is always on the repeat list. Furthermore, velvet.hu (which is part of the index.hu - one of the biggest hungarian news and bulvar portals) commemorates death of Bill Pertwee. http://velvet.hu/blogok/gumicukor/2013/05/28/meg_egy_csengetett_mylord_szereplo_hunyt_el/. Sorry for poor English, I'm not native speaker. scaurus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.3.207.141 (talk) 17:31, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Two more links: http://revizoronline.com/hu/cikk/6523/csengetett-mylord/ and https://24.hu/kultura/2018/07/15/miert-mi-szeretjuk-a-legjobban-csengetett-mylord-ot/ (sorry, both are in hungarian, please use any translate service to read it) Right now this sitcom is brodcasted on two different channels, with daily schedule: https://port.hu/adatlap/film/tv/csengetett-mylord-you-rang-mlord/movie-4495 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.165.248.45 (talk) 07:05, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

For the cult status, it's important to consider that 1920-1944 Hungary was characterized by the "kingless kingdom" Horthy regime, accurately described as 1/2 part feudalism and 1/2 part fascism, but mostly neo-feudalism since it lacked the material progress associated with Mussolini's original italian fascist regime. Poverty was immense for most of the hungarian society (lower classes), while the thin upper tiers put on a show of wasteful indulgence and social structures were totally rigid. Thus, scenes shown in M'Lord resonate strongly within hungarian audiences, but with the misery being tempered by "english humour" and that makes it an appealing watch. 79.120.152.211 (talk) 22:11, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

LORD Meldrum

A lord is not a "member of the gentry", respected or not, he is a peer. --92.217.213.181 (talk) 14:46, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Seems like a fair observation, amended now. You can always change Wikipedia yourself though. Bob talk 14:52, 25 March 2018 (UTC)