Talk:Yog-Sothoth
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Yaji Ash-Shuthath
[edit]Does this really mean "There is no peace at the gates" in Arabic? I feel a little uncomfortable with the reference as it stands, because it's not actual scholarship--it's color for a role-playing game, which for all we know may have been made up out of whole cloth. I do not think it is a serious suggestion that Lovecraft derived the name from an Arabic phrase. Nareek 13:09, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
- Good point. I just noticed that the alleged translation had been put there without attribution and hoped that citing the source might clear it up slightly. But yes: it might be Arabic, it might not; the essay in question doesn't actually confirm it one way or another. If it is Arabic, then it's probably a back-formation. Any Arabic speakers able to clear that up? Phil Smith 05:40, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about 5th edition but according to 6th edition "Yaji Ash-Shuthath" translates to "The abnormal ones (things, times?) are coming" while "There is no peace at the gates" seems to be the english translation of "Ny har rut hotep". Legiodes 18:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- I speak an arabic dialect, and although I'm not an expert of classical Arabic, I can tell : Actually, neither "Yaji Ash-Shuthath" or "Ny har rut hotep" are Arabic... Siebharrin 14:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about 5th edition but according to 6th edition "Yaji Ash-Shuthath" translates to "The abnormal ones (things, times?) are coming" while "There is no peace at the gates" seems to be the english translation of "Ny har rut hotep". Legiodes 18:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Tawil At-U'mr
[edit]The subsection does not says WHO crated him ir where he made his debut.Also searching for the name on goodle proved nothing,all articles are derived from here,except one,where it was stated that he was created by Lovecraft,witch Might be true or just a speculation.Please,can someone add the source? New Babylon 16:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Well it's from Through the Gates of the Silver Key, his only apearans in Lovecraft, to my knowledge. My guess it's E. Hoffman Price creation since Lovecraft liked to reuse the names of his strange beings in other novels. But I don't know if the manuscript that Lovecraft rewrote of Hoffmans, see Through the Gates of the Silver Key, so anyone can find out. What I wanna know is where Tawil At-U'mr as an avatar of Yog-Sothpth comes from. Some RPG? As I recall they apear in the story one after an other, but not that one is an aspect of the other. Any source on that one? Ttias (talk) 18:48, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Is Yog-Sothoth the terrible creature that caused the main protagonist of ATMOM to lose his mind? --Jupiter Optimus Maximus (talk) 20:03, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- No, that's a shoggoth, clearly a similar made-up word but distinguished in the story.--Yunuswesley (talk) 01:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yog-Sothoth is what causes the main protagonist's sidekick to lose his mind. —WikiMarshall (talk) 04:09, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Yog-Sothoth plays a major role in the mythos-based ARG, Eldritch Errors. Is that worth mentioning on this page? --132.161.208.37 (talk) 01:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
The conjuring of Yog-Sothoth by the character played by Dean Stockwell in the brilliant, campy 1970 Film The Dunwich Horror, was one of the greatest moments in campy horror. If you were hip in '70 you loved this movie and the Yog-Sothoth conjuring was the high point of a really freaky movie.
Let's be honest, Lovecraft is the essence of camp and tortured prose, but that's what makes Lovecraft great. Botendaddy (talk) 01:21, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
This polyhedron is sometimes called Yog-Sothoth, I have no idea why though! 4 T C 09:41, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Picture
[edit]Since most of the other Outer Gods have pictures in their articles, i'm going to add one of Yog-Sothoth to his article. If anyone finds a picture that they feel is better, feel free to discuss it. I am currently awaiting permission to use a very awesome image for him.--Webspidrman 05:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I have added a new image for Yog-Sothoth to the article. It is an image of the god created by Alan Moore, the author of Watchmen fame, which was published in the 2006 edition of John Coulthart's book The Haunter in the Dark: And Other Grotesque Visions.--Webspidrman 09:15, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
- I'd like to propose a change to the picture to one that fits the worded description of Yog Sothoth being made of "spheres" better and that's used by Chaosium and Fantasy Flight.--68.40.190.127 (talk) 13:02, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
- I agree. I think the current image is actually of his 'purer' son from The Dunwich Horror described as being made of 'ropes', and the rest of the image may well be the hill from that story. There are many different sphere designs and though I do like the ones of 'eyes' I find something similar to this may be more appropriate. 140.203.246.3 (talk) 15:06, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
- Regardless of whether or not a new image is used, I think this image should be removed as it is misleading due to looking nothing like descriptions of Yog-Sothoth, and am doing so. I've seen people who don't know any better take this page's image at face value and that isn't right. 121.115.127.181 (talk) 05:44, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
HA HA HAAA TIS AMUSING
[edit]"Significant other". You have to be joking. By the Whiskers of Kûrvi-Tasch!--75* 20:43, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Proposed merge of Cthulhu Mythos deities#Yog-Sothoth with Yog-Sothoth
[edit]I made an effort to find reliable sources that discuss Yog-Sothoth. Unfortunately, there are not many that are not already in the references section. It doubtful that this article could be improved beyond its current state. Furthermore, the majority of this article is plot-related information; there is little analysis of Yog-Sothoth's real-world significance. ―Susmuffin Talk 23:02, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge. I'd think he would be one of the 'bigger ones', hence more notable. The article currently mentions three sources that are not primary: 1) Encyclopedia Cthulhiana by Daniel Harms, published by Chaosium. It seems to have about two pages on this ([1], [2]), but it strikes me as mostly a plot summary, and the publisher is known for fiction/gaming not scholarly works. 2) The Lovecraft Lexicon by Anthony Brainard Pearsall from Tempe: New Falcon. I can't find much information about any of those, at the very least it's not scholarly, through I can't find any preview or such. The third ref provided is an obvious gaming material, so not reliable. My BEFORE for scholarly analysis shows little but mentions in passing, some of the best are [3] which presents Lovercraft's own analysis of this entity (but it doesn't seem to contain any secondary analysis); [4] (reliable, but again, passing mentions, no in-depth analysis), [5] (but has this been published in a reliable source?), or [6] (which is probably not RS anyway). I am not seeing anything better, and I don't think this shows sufficient notability. Some of the sources here might be useful if anyone wants to add few sentences of analysis post-merge. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:32, 21 December 2019 (UTC)