Talk:Yanggakdo International Hotel

Unreferenced?

Mikeblas - I can't vouch for the French company or the hotel's date of opening, but (with the exception of the brothel which was signposted) everything else was first-hand on my part and that's probably about as good as you're going to get with the DPRK for the time being.

When I stayed at the Yanggakdo Hotel in May 2002 I received a perfectly legitimate (and somewhat robust) massage at the hotel facility. However, I am prepared to believe that they have taken a different business direction since then - possibly prompted by demand.

I was there June 2002. It was a "legitimate" massage parlor, but like anything else, money talks. We all understood it to offer "extra services" for anyone so desiring -- wasn't that the whole reason the girls were foreigners (macau) anyways? 66.105.218.63 (talk) 03:48, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I was there in 2007 and didnt see a massage parlor at all. Bonewah (talk) 19:50, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Guess you have to go looking -- while I noticed the massage parlor (2002), I somehow totally missed the POOL! :( 66.105.218.63 (talk) 03:50, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

There is a massage parlor in the basement. Although I didn't get the massage when I was there, I didn't see either there or anywhere on the web any proper references stating that the massage club was in any sort of way a "gentlemen's club". I redacted that from the article until there is a proper reference otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.219.169.42 (talk) 21:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Bilingual Redundancy

“Yanggakdo Island” is a bilingual redundancy. Do and island are the same thing…. So why translate Do to begin with? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.79.62.19 (talk) 11:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

호텔

Listing "羊角島國際호텔" as the hanja translation of the name of the hotel is curious as 호텔 isn't exactly hanja.... in fact it isn't Korean either, it's an English loan word. It is questionable if hanja is relevant on a page listing a North Korean building since the North Koreans cut the Chinese linguistic apron strings long, long ago. None the less, if hanja is going to be shown here then shouldn't it be 羊角島國際酒店 and not "호텔" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.79.62.21 (talk) 12:26, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:FOOD Tagging

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Fifth floor

This previously appeared in the article:

Visitors to the hotel have noted that the elevator buttons skip from Floor 4 to Floor 6; however, Floor 5 is accessible by way of stairs (and it is the floor where the guides have their rooms). While there is no certainty as to the exact nature and purpose of Floor 5, one blogger who ventured there has written about it:

First, the 5th floor is unlike any floor of the hotel, it is all concrete, like a bunker, complete with steel doors. There are no decorations of any kind; instead there are propaganda posters. At that time all the strange doors were shut tight, but we were still able to stumble upon the most intriguing of all: in a corner there was a large pile of what appeared to be miniature cameras, as if awaiting repair. Cameras, lots of them, and well enough for each room of the hotel. I don’t think I need to spell it out for you, word for word anyway. Oh, and another member of our group reported that when he went at a different time one door was open and there appeared to be official-looking men before computers or machines of some kind and listening to something with headphones.

It was then later amended to the following, of demonstrably dubious veracity (the casino is in the basement, and the linked video does not support the statement) by an anonymous user:

Visitors to the hotel have noted that the elevator buttons skip from Floor 4 to Floor 6; however, Floor 5 is accessible by way of stairs (and it is the floor where the guides have their rooms). While there is no certainty as to the exact nature and purpose of Floor 5, one blogger who ventured there has written about it and reflects the possibility that this floor is determined to spy on hotel guests. Knowing that and asking some guides about the fifth floor, visitors have been to the fifth floor in August 2011 with the guides and discovered that it is a technical floor for the casino, situated in the fourth floor; see Video of 5th floor.

i'm not about to enter into any argument about whether it should be in the article or not, I just found the whole thing interesting; both the existence of the floor itself and the clumsy attempt by someone to cover it up... Sengokucannon (talk) 01:07, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Somewhat interestingly: despite claims that the 5th floor is only accessible by staircase because the hotel elevator doesn't stop there, there's a video on YouTube showing a group of tourists apparently making the elevator go to level 5 by holding down the "4" and "6" buttons simultaneously on the elevator panel. Muzilon (talk) 23:01, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

References

Restaurants on ground floor

The Japanese, Chinese, and Korean restaurants are on the ground floor. When you enter the lobby just straight ahead. Been there as every guest of the hotel. --2A00:C1A0:4888:3000:FD03:5E19:2FE2:7AB1 (talk) 14:29, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Price of a room

In the lead it says the price is $350/night, but the article later states that it is $4.99 per night. Which is it? Hidden Tempo (talk) 20:47, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Massage club

I researched the claim that the massage service has "exclusively female staff" and is run by a "Chinese company." While dubious sources make dubious claims, more reliable sources don't support this. Some more reliable sources say there is a "Chinese side" of the basement that only operates when there are Chinese visitors, so it seems likely that this was WP:OR based on a single instance of observation and conjecture. Jack N. Stock (talk) 15:37, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Basically...

This is the place where they dump all the western tourists so we can't see their clearly failing country. I aspire to go to North Korea as a tourist one day and will most likely end up here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.37.54 (talk) 5 February 2019 (UTC)

(1) Please sign your posts; (2) See WP:NOTFORUM. Thank you. --Muzilon (talk) 07:48, 5 February 2019 (UTC)