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This article shows traces of being written by the company. Should be cleaned and some independent opinion is required

Agreed. I imagine no foulplay here though... it looks like it was simply lifted from the website --Randal L. Schwartz 18:04, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

This article uses a difficult-to-read writing style, with long sentences, big words, and a lot of dashes in the middle of sentences. Would someone be kind enough to clean it up for the benefit of all Wikipedians? :) --Unforgettableid | Talk to me 20:23, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Difficult to view as well. In my opinion, the image of the Airbus cockpit in the infobox should be changed to one that can be more easily seen. (209.7.38.8 12:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)) (USMA2010)

I've uploaded another (clearer) image to replace the Airbus cockpit. It's from [my X-Plane screenshot archive], and there are about 12000 more shots there to choose from. --Kumiankka 13:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Being an X-Plane user I made some edits to focus on what it is, less on how it does it. Edited out some superfluous content for clean up. What it does could be expanded which I may do. Man-hi 22:19, 15 December 2005 (UTC) | Talk to me

User:72.10.96.132

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&user=&page=User:72.10.96.132

Blocked due to repeated stupid edits - i.e. adding release notes

Thanks to User:Kingboyk

Reedy Boy 21:45, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

This article is getting muddled again. 65.74.13.226 19:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Moved from article


Also included in X-Plane is full photographic scenery for North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, and Australia. This scenery, which is 80% of the Earth, is topographic. Although airports are only shown as their runways and ramps, scenery packages are available on X-Plane's forum.
X-Plane is also known for being a true simulator, not a game. Not even the sky is the limit; You can fly in outer space and on Mars.
X-Plane offers four other applications:
1.Airfoil-Maker: Allows you to fully customize wings, such as on flyable designs of animals
2.Briefer: Allows you to plan a Flight before-hand
3.Plane-Maker: Allows you to create your own aircraft, change someone else's, or update aircrafts from older versions
4.World Maker: allows you to create your own scenery for one place, or create a whole world altogether
Other applications for X-Plane can be found on the forum. A very popular application is a converter that takes scenery packages from Microsoft Flight Simulator and changes them to X-Plane format.
X-Plane also has plug-ins, such as XPushBack X, which "draws" a forklift or other truck that pushes you backwards to get onto a ramp. A big one is XSquawkBox, which allows you to fly online with others, where you can practice formations, have a dogfight, or just observe other planes trafficking as in real life. To help make the experience more real, X-Plane will keep track of the real date and time, and will constantly check the internet for weather results, thus real-time weather. There are plenty of servers, ones where you listen to an ATC and have a true experience with real pilots, and other where you fly to have fun.
X-Plane also comes with a built-in Screenshot command, as well as a video-recorder, however videos do not record the sound, something that has been an issue for awhile, but is bound to be fixed.
Yet another one of the big things X-Plane is known for is the 3D cockpits. Although not all aircraft have these, it has become a big deal and almost every new plane does.

--68.55.235.179 06:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC) D.J. Flores

I added some of this info again. Don't see why it was removed Marminnetje 20:13, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Evenblade image

I've replaced the Evenblade image in the article; it was removed by TomXP411 temporarily, and, without trying to second-guess anyone's reasons, not replaced. I feel it's an important image, since creating fictional aircraft is something that can be done only in X-Plane, and this is also why I've displaced the Beluga down: the Evenblade is in the section that discusses the flight model's advantages. Nonetheless, if anyone feels this is a conflict of interest (I created and uploaded the screenshot) feel free to revert. --Scott Wilson 16:51, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I had no problem with the image itself, but the page was getting way too cluttered with screenshots, and it was messing the formatting of the sections. I spent a lot of time re-formatting the article because of those kinds of problesm, and I just couldn't find a spot to re-insert the image where it didn't mess something up. I was also a little concerned about the article becoming a photo gallery and advertisiment for third party XP developers, but that hasn't happened, and the picture DOES look good where you put it. :) -- TomXP411[Talk] 01:30, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Remarks

It is said that X-Plane is also running on Linux PPC. This is not true, at least today.

About Universal Binary executables to run on PPC as well as Intel Mac, this is true only from version 8.40. As in Europe the boxed version is 8.21, if you don't know this detail you will be disappointed.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.98.151.180 (talk • contribs) 13:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Original Research

Holy original research Batman! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.176.141 (talk) 14:45, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

/agreed! Icemotoboy (talk) 22:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Seconded - and much of it is looking pretty spammy Smidoid 2:39, 25 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.34.73 (talk)

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I've moved all the external links here, except for the official one. The external links section is not a place for community links, its the place for official links. It's okay to put some community ones there, but it soon gets excessive. Rather than argue over which links should be there and which shouldn't - its much better just to have the official ones.

  • X-Plane.org Community resource for downloads and forums
  • Plugin SDK Home Page Software Development Kit to make plug-ins
  • X-Plane Gateway Comprehensive Links of X-Plane Community
  • X-Plane.es Spanish language X-Plane portal offering news, downloads, links, and forums.
  • X-Plane.it Italian language X-Plane portal offering news, downloads, links, and forums.
  • x-plane :: hu Hungarian language X-Plane portal offering news, downloads, links, and forums.
  • X-Plane Freeware Project Community resource for forums, downloads and professional commercial airliners.

Please feel free to discuss. Icemotoboy (talk) 03:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Release date

Where in the article should we mention the expected release date of X-Plane 10 (2011)?

In the interview with Austin Meyer: [1] "Regarding X-Plane 10: unsure, but shooting for the top of next year!"

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.178.164.8 (talk • contribs) 08:35, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Community

I see that a user has added a new 'Community' section
Personally I think that this section is not really needed for a couple of reasons, first it does not add much to the article itself, it has no references, What does it really tell the reader, that there is a forum or two dedicated to X-plane?
Secondly the links themselves, X-Plane.org is probably the best known forum whereas x-pilot.com is far, far smaller, even the x-plan forum of flightsim.com is bigger, shall we not list that forum rather/as well?
I was wondering what others though, shall we remove the section altogether?, remove the external links? add other forums? or leave it as it is? FFMG (talk) 14:09, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Version_10

Is this section really needed? While there is no doubt there will be a future version all the details given in the section are fairly vague.
Version 10 of the X-Plane series is set to go on sale around the first quarter of 2011. It will be one of, if not, the most realistic flight simulator for public use. It should not cost more than a normal video game, $35-$80.
Those are prety vague, (and maybe even peacock terms), terms. I mean what price range is $35-$80 anyway?
This looks like WP:OR taken from forum posts, (not sure where the price and take was guessed from), I propose we remove it until we have some more concrete, _referenced_, information. FFMG (talk) 06:58, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

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X-Plane 11

I have an email regarding the release of X-Plane 11. If you would like it, please leave a message on my talk page. Jak474 (talk) 20:56, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

  • Comment: I already have the email, but what use is it, we can't use it as a citation to support X-Plane 11.

The need to lock parts of the X-Plane main description

To quote myself from a comment in the X-Plane main description :

"I don't know why people keep feeling the need to change the X-Plane description from 'flight simulator' to 'video game'. Once again, X-Plane can be upgraded to log FAA approved flight training hours and to use high-end flight simulation hardware. See https://www.x-plane.com/pro/ . Also, Microsoft Flight Simulator is still classified as a flight simulator on its Wiki page. Once again, this edit borders on vandalism. The "Video Game" description could be changed to "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_simulation_game", but that is cumbersome and confusing, especially when all the other flight simulators, such as MSFS, are classified still as "flight simulators", which would make the description on the X-Plane page inconsistent with other pages on flight simulators. Changing back to "flight simulator", again. This main description needs to be locked by an editor with higher privileges than I have."

People have been repeatedly changing the main description of X-Plane from "flight simulator" to "video game". So far this has been done by anonymous persons identified by their IP addresses only, and it has happened fairly recently starting a few months ago. I propose that an editor with more privileges than myself lock the relevant parts of the main description. Jdbtwo (talk) 16:59, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Also, I need to mention that changing "flight simulator" to "video game" contradicts the main X-Plane description box and also the content in the Amateur flight simulation, Microsoft Flight Simulator and Flight simulator articles.Jdbtwo (talk) 17:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Primary Sources

The majority of the page is sourced using primary sources. Any reason why those sections are allowed to continue to be on the page? Why not remove those sections until we can find new sources that independently confirm the claims made in those sections? Hellotrio (talk) 23:10, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@Hellotrio:
The reason those sections can't just be removed is that most of the article would disappear. There is already a template warning readers that the article relies on mostly primary sources. Also, if the aforementioned content were removed, editors who would otherwise be able to add secondary and tertiary sources would no longer be able to as the content would no longer be there. Just because the content relies on mostly primary sources doesn't mean it's invalid and should be removed -- in the case of the X-Plane article, it's just hard to find secondary and tertiary sources. I'm sure someone will come along and add more sources -- I'll see what I can do in that regard when I have the time. Jdbtwo (talk) 18:22, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Criticisms Section Needed

All consumer products, whether for personal use, home use, or professional use, should have a section entitled "Criticisms," "Critical Reviews," or something similar. X-Plane is no exception, and negative feedback forms a vital conduit of information, particularly when the feedback is qualified by an external source, such as a major computer or IT periodical. For example, I have never been able to get even X-Plane 9 to work reliably on my computer despite having a standard Intel/Windows setup (i5, 8GB RAM, 230GB free HD space, Windows 8.1/10, and a fast and well-known graphics card). As for X-Plane 10, forget it. Both are overkill, so overtaxing the system with eye candy that they do not reliably run, even when the display settings are minimized. Meanwhile, FS2004 runs just fine, even using all three screens to display both side views and additional systems (GPS, Radio Stack, Throttle Quadrant). To keep it objective, however, similar comments have been made by various professional reviewers, and their summary comments need a "Criticisms" place to communicate that to Wikipedia's readers.Clepsydrae (talk) 22:48, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

@Clepsydrae: If you have the reliable sources which say it, be bold and update the page. --Izno (talk) 12:00, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Alas, I do not have any such sources on hand. I have seen numerous complaints in a few online flight simulation forums, and have experienced it myself, but that doesn't meet Wikipedia criteria. I was hoping others who are more into flight simulation would have sources from a notable publication.Clepsydrae (talk) 22:59, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Ok, sorry for necroposting, but the idea that everything needs a "criticisms" section isn't really correct. Products can have a crticisms section if reliable, secondary sources have published significant crticism of it, and not just reviews giving run-of-the-mill criticism like "it's mostly good but my PC couldn't run it on max graphics", or "I found this little feature a bit annoying". For X-Plane, that would require criticism of fundamental aspects, like accuracy, and the quality of the programming itself. Ok, the ability to drop a 737-800 from 999,999ft or the ability to launch and (attempt) to land an A380 on an aircraft carrier in 10m seas might not be realistic situations, but the program does accurately model these scenarios if requested (I.e. if you turn off the "easy" mode bits for overspeed and over-g). Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 05:38, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

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