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Earth's population

we now have 8 billion people on earth. 192.12.103.9 (talk) 16:01, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Sand time glass measurement image with past humans at the bottom

Metaphorically using the endless downward pull-push of gravity on sand/humans and the passage of time in the image. I think this total number of humans that lived should not be on the article. It is not done for the dinosaurs (165 million years) or for the species of sharks to my knowledge. Please explain the relevance of the total number of past human deaths.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 13:47, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

There is a widespread misconception that, as a concequence of the population explosion, the majority of all humans that ever lived are still alive today. I think the rather harmless inclusion of this factoid serves to dispell that idea.-- (talk) 18:02, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2023

The maths in this sentence are a little in error:

Approximately 4.49 billion people live in these ten countries, representing around 56% of the world's population as of July 2022.

Immediately above this sentence, the table shows 4,501,267,379 people and 56.22%. Could 4.49 be changed to 4.50, and 56 be changed to 56.2? Of course 56 is correct, but I think it would be better to use three significant figures with both numbers. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 03:37, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

 Partly done: I changed the incorrect value. However, I think for the purposes of this table, 56% is very appropriate. Updating this kind of figure (which is here intended just as a rough reference) regularly to maintain three significant figures accurately would be significant workload for unclear encyclopedic benefit; I would hope that people are not expecting exact figures from the phrasing of that sentence :) Actualcpscm (talk) 17:53, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Past population zeros

Any reason for the 0s for the Americas in the first row of Past population? Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 12:30, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Isn't it correct that reliable sources set the population of the Americas to 0, where as all other continents (possibly excluding Oceania?) had non-zero populations at that time? If reliable source say so, but do not otherwise give numbers by continent that far back, the table makes sense as it is. (talk) 14:03, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
But do you think is there a difference between 0 and Nul? I think that Nul implies we don't know, whilst zero means we are certain. The current reference doesn't [1] explicitly specify zero

25k years may be the current [estimate], but Indigenous_peoples_in_Canada#Paleo-Indian_period has 15 KWakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 09:05, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Problems with chart

I made these comments on the Commons talk page for the first chart "File:World-population-1750-2015-and-un-projection-until-2100.png".

World population growth from 10,000 BCE to 2021
World population growth from 10,000 BCE to 2021

I have several issues with this chart:

  • The description says, "by OurWorldInData, from various sources", but does not cite the raw data or the raw data sources. The data must be provided and sourced, just naming a large data repository does not suffice.
  • The datapoints from A.D. 0 to A.D. 1000, especially from 0 to 500 A.D., appear to be significantly lower than consensus, though without data and sources this is difficult to dispute.
  • While the linear scale does visually demonstrate the "hockey stick" population pattern, it makes the graph unreadable; population before 3000 BC is indistinguishable from zero and other datapoints are hard to read accurately. Hockey stick graphs should use a log scale on the Y axis to convey population change. It would be reasonable to have two graphs though, one with a linear Y scale for visualization and one with a log Y scale to convey information.
  • Graphs should ideally use vector graphics.

I would like to see this graph updated and replaced on the pages that include it. Q653724854 (talk) 15:44, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

I was going to make a similar comment. At the very least, the inability to distinguish pre-BC population from 0 makes the figure not much useful. Thenightaway (talk) 23:44, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

but as far as we know, at least 1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.231.133.58 (talk) 08:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2023

Under "Global demographics", you should add "Arabic (362M)" in The world's most-spoken languages section, after "Spanish (534M)" and before "French (280M)". Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic 172.97.243.243 (talk) 02:01, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Wikipedia is not a reliable source. WanderingMorpheme 22:38, 29 October 2023 (UTC)