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No Hamas invasion?
[edit]A lot of people on Twitter are describing this current war will escalate into WW3. There should be at least some mention about it. Trakaplex (talk) 05:52, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- In general, Twitter is not a reliable source. Got anything better? HiLo48 (talk) 05:54, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- What about this? https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2024/02/12/the-world-war-iii-election-00140938 2603:7000:6500:97B:1115:7958:422C:FE28 (talk) 17:07, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- The source doesn't explicitly connect the Israeli-Hamas war with WW3. It only implicitly connects the wider Middle East conflict with a "massive fight that leads to tens of thousands of deaths and upends the global economy", which is not even near the scale of WW1 and WW2. Gollem (talk) 20:59, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- how about these sources (from various viewpoints):
- https://www.thedailybeast.com/is-world-war-3-really-right-around-the-corner
- https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-03-17/ty-article/.premium/thomas-friedman-the-gaza-war-is-the-real-world-war-ii/0000018e-4d4f-dfb8-adef-dd7f18060000
- https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3257349/republican-congressman-suggests-dropping-nuclear-bombs-gaza-and-ending-humanitarian-aid
- https://www.barrons.com/articles/israel-hamas-russia-ukraine-world-war-global-politics-b561e47e
- Wisenerd (talk) 05:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Quote from source claims the opposit: "while it certainly has all the makings of the first major Middle Eastern modern regional war, it doesn’t yet have enough combustible power to ignite a world war". Gollem (talk) 07:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- One columnist's opinion. Unclear importance due to paywall. Gollem (talk) 07:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- No mention of WW3. Gollem (talk) 07:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Link doesn't seem to lead to an article with that title. Gollem (talk) 07:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- how about these sources (from various viewpoints):
- World on brink as Putin's next three countries to invade revealed by Russian general 2601:84:8080:98E0:29F5:206E:A938:E219 (talk) 19:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- That source, the Daily Express, is a sensationalist, tabloid outlet. It clearly displays the attributes of such a label by never having more than one sentence in a paragraph. HiLo48 (talk) 23:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- The source doesn't explicitly connect the Israeli-Hamas war with WW3. It only implicitly connects the wider Middle East conflict with a "massive fight that leads to tens of thousands of deaths and upends the global economy", which is not even near the scale of WW1 and WW2. Gollem (talk) 20:59, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- What about this? https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2024/02/12/the-world-war-iii-election-00140938 2603:7000:6500:97B:1115:7958:422C:FE28 (talk) 17:07, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Twitter claims all events will lead to ww3. Biden could trip over a rock in china and people would say the US should go to war. I know this is a bigger example but more sources are needed. LuxembourgLover (talk) 18:08, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- I agree to add the Israel-Hamas war now that the iranian embassy has been bombed.Givibidou (talk) 16:03, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Why? Do you see any signs of escalation beyond a regional conflict that are reported as such by relevant sources? Gollem (talk) 00:57, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- The US navy has its fleet in the Mediterranean, Russia has its army in Syria. A war between Israel and Iran-Syria could bring an american intervention and a russian intervention. [1] Givibidou (talk) 08:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- The US has troops stationed in over 100 different countries. One could argue that their presence makes WWIII less likely. HiLo48 (talk) 23:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- The article is unclear whether the statements about WW3 are related to what is happening Ukraine or Gaza. Also it doesn’t explain how the latter could escalate into WW3. Just the fact that Russia is present to support the Syrian regime and the USA is present in the region too, is not enough to add it in this article. Gollem (talk) 06:07, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- The US navy has its fleet in the Mediterranean, Russia has its army in Syria. A war between Israel and Iran-Syria could bring an american intervention and a russian intervention. [1] Givibidou (talk) 08:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Why? Do you see any signs of escalation beyond a regional conflict that are reported as such by relevant sources? Gollem (talk) 00:57, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's absolutely insane that the Israel/Palestine conflict isn't mentioned here. Some of the editors here clearly have an agenda, I'm fully expecting to be banned or whatever but that needed to be said Allthegoodnamesaretakenonhere (talk) 18:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Allthegoodnamesaretakenonhere
Some of the editors here clearly have an agenda
like who and what kind of agenda? Nonspecific issues leads to no resolutions. I struggle to see how being pro-palestine, pro-israel, etc drives one be biased to adding a possibility of Hamas-Israel war leading to WW3. Unless someone can provide non-sensationalistic academic source connecting the war to WW3, no mention can be added. Ca talk to me! 12:00, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Allthegoodnamesaretakenonhere
- coming back to this, with the recent events, it seems like we should add something. going to list articles again:
- 1. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/03/the-west-must-grow-a-backbone-to-prevent-world-war-iii/
- 2. https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/israel-closer-to-world-war-iii-trump-sounds-alarm-in-meeting-with-netanyahu-attacks-harris/vi-BB1qIecg
- 3. https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/israel-iran-conflict-israel-war-may-enter-new-phase-today-if-iran-hezbollah-strike-explained-124080500210_1.html
- 4. https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/world-war-iii-fears-skyrocket-33385800
- 5. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-08-01/ty-article/.premium/is-israel-deliberately-provoking-escalation-that-might-drag-the-u-s-into-the-conflict/00000191-0e5d-dc54-a7dd-ffdfbb610000 Wisenerd (talk) 07:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Bet you that WW3 probably started without anyone knowing. It could be like WW2-ish feels.
- So far we have nothing to fear yet. I doubt in this world with global economy, leaders want to start ww3. It will disrupt global business and if nukes gets launched in situation. all of society around the world will suffer.
- But we can be wrong about it, like leader of Israel keeps going on with his genocide against Palestinians and putin wants to get Ukraine. fear mongering is not option for making sure if information is right. I want to be clear that I aren't suggesting anything to change, but I suggest for editors on here to actually use their rational brain and see if later news headlines are really important or carry weights to be added on this wikipedia.
- I am single person though and anyone here can disagree, but I agree to disagree. Please be healthy and polite with your points. Collectively minds can be good for putting necessary informations.
- Have a good day 89.22.199.48 (talk) 03:20, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
"World War 5" listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]The redirect World War 5 has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 2 § World War 5 until a consensus is reached. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Why all the references to the bulletin of fearmongering scientists?
[edit]Why all of the random references and advertisements for the bulletin of atomic quacks? There's lots of random websites out there who's sole purpose is to monetize this type of content. Why do we just reference them? Go to their homepage and review the first few "stories" they have posted -- you will see grammatical errors and sourcing problems immediately. 174.179.172.150 (talk) 18:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Why is the situation in Middle East not mentioned?
[edit]I would suggest someone who is a good writer and knows good sources to mention the middle east crisis in the current conflicts section.
Here are the reasons why
- Hamas attacked 1200+ Israelis on Oct 7th
- Till date it is estimated that Israel killed 50000+ Palestinians (Roughly, I don't know how accurate the figure is)
- Israel Lebanon conflict.
- Iranian Missile and Drone strike on Israel
- Hezbollah's attack on Majdal Shams
- Israel's revenge which killed a Hezbollah military advisor in Beirut, Lebanon.
- The Houthi Involvement - Drone attack on Tel Aviv and Israeli attack on Al Hudeidah Port in Yemen
- Ismail Haniyah's assassination carried out by Israel
With so many events I feel this should be covered as this situation will bring the world closer to WW3, more than the current magnitude of the Russia-Ukraine war. 2402:E280:3E19:280:E4C2:B6F1:22A5:C0BF (talk) 08:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is based upon reliable sources, not our own analysis. Are there sources that describe the situation as (a prelude to) World War III? soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- By that logic even Russia-Ukraine conflict should not be here? Its been 2.5 years since the war broke and there is still no "WW3" which was talked about. By common logic I think we can see that the situation in middle East is far more brutal, lethal, involves more nations, more violence and at a very high risk of erupting into a region wide war.
- Please consider my opinions.
- Explained: Will Iran vs Israel really spark World War III? | The Herald (heraldscotland.com)
- The risk of all-out Middle East war is rising sharply (ft.com)
- Can the Israel-Hamas & Russia-Ukraine Wars Lead to World War? (northeastern.edu)
- 'All-out war is coming', vows Israel as Netanyahu in crunch meeting over 'imminent' strikes on Hezbollah amid WW3 fears | The Sun
- World War 3 Fears Rise as Iran Threatens Revenge ‘Special Operations’ on Israel (mycharisma.com)
- Could today’s global conflicts bring World War III closer? | Conflict News | Al Jazeera
- As you said here are the sources. 2402:E280:3E19:280:D1B3:5A77:B7F9:F5AA (talk) 18:43, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Whilst the situation in the Middle East is at least as dire as it's been since the Yom Kippur War (which was of Cold War vintage, mind you), neither Israeli, Arab, nor Iranian media have bruited WWIII that I've seen, i.e. it's not a matter of brinksmanship. Too, a quick search for "WWIII" on Haaretz yields... A 2021 review of the thriller 2034 by James Stavridis & Elliot Ackerman. Al-Jazeera's references are similiarly dated. Regional conflagration, sure. But "rising tension" is to geopolitics what "momentum" is to political campaigns: a panchreston.
- https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-08-04/ty-article/.premium/netanyahu-has-the-power-to-prevent-a-regional-war-all-it-takes-is-a-deal-with-hamas/00000191-1eb5-d68e-a79b-5fb5ee350000 ::::https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/05/iran-says-it-has-moral-duty-to-punish-israel-law-breaking-and-adventurism kencf0618 (talk) 16:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Whilst the situation in the Middle East is at least as dire as it's been since the Yom Kippur War (which was of Cold War vintage, mind you), neither Israeli, Arab, nor Iranian media have bruited WWIII that I've seen, i.e. it's not a matter of brinksmanship. Too, a quick search for "WWIII" on Haaretz yields... A 2021 review of the thriller 2034 by James Stavridis & Elliot Ackerman. Al-Jazeera's references are similiarly dated. Regional conflagration, sure. But "rising tension" is to geopolitics what "momentum" is to political campaigns: a panchreston.
Israel and Palestine conflict
[edit]Surely this should be included under 'Current conflicts deemed a risk'. There has been a build up of tension for ages. 2C0F:EF18:1854:0:F8AE:2886:B295:3587 (talk) 19:57, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ir needs a source that says it is a close call. Sjö (talk) 21:13, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
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