Talk:Wittgenstein's ladder

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Sentence Construction Unfinished.

The following sentence, from the second paragraph, seems to me a work in progress: "Among what can be said for Wittgenstein are the propositions of natural science, and to the nonsensical, or unsayable, those subjects associated with philosophy traditionally- ethics and metaphysics, for instance."

There is a failed parallelism here. Are there two things that can be said for Wittgenstein, the sayable and the unsayable? If so, the "to" is superfluous, indeed destructive. Or are the propositions of natural science sayable but the author forgot to supply a verb for the nonsensical or unsayable in a second, at present rather dangling, clause?

On the assumption that the author intended to continue Wittgenstein's faint irony, with the unsayable being said before being discarded, I would suggest the following two simple edits:

"Among what can be said for Wittgenstein are the propositions of natural science, and the nonsensical, or unsayable, those subjects associated with philosophy traditionally -- ethics and metaphysics, for instance." This deletes the intrusive "to" and cleans up the en-dash.

David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 14:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Given the preceding problematic at work in his Tractatus,"

I don't know what 'problematic' means here. Dependant on what that means, I think it might also be an issue what 'preceding' refers to - the article is very much non self-contained and relies on unlinked-to prerequisite knowledge.2A01:C22:34C3:D700:2577:8161:6310:C02A (talk)