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Date	Process	Result
August 10, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
February 13, 2011	Good article reassessment	Kept

Current status: Good article

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GA

If i could i`ll make it GA Zidane tribal (talk) 21:38, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Winter in America/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:

B. MoS compliance:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
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Notes: excellent article. my only suggestion is to change the {{cquote|quote text}} template to {{Quote|Phrase|Somebody|''Source''}} as decorative quotes are discouraged under policy. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 03:50, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changed cquotes Dan56 (talk) 23:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Washington Post review

Transcription using Google News Advanced News Archive Search. The Washington Post (Harrington, Richard. D.05. June 3, 1998) review of Winter in America (1974):

On 1974's "Winter in America" (a hard-to-find album originally released on the Strata East jazz label), it's mostly Scott-Heron and Jackson on acoustic and electric keyboards, offering airy, expansive meditations on love and family ("A Very Precious Time," "Your Daddy Loves You" and "A Song for Bobby Smith"), ruminations on cultural indentity ("Rivers of My Fathers," "Back Home"), as well as two classic Scott-Heron works, "The Bottle" and "H20gate Blues" is freestyling '70s-style, a partially extemporaneous blues-rap featuring caustic sociopolitical commentary that still stings 25 years later.
— Richard Harrington

Dan56 (talk) 06:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Winter in America/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

Article has 13 non-free ~~images~~media and fails WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8. Either it needs to lose the offending images or be delisted as a good article. Black Kite (t) (c) 00:46, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removed excessive images, dont know about there being 13 though. Two left, not counting album cover, substantial in illustrating the topic(s). Dan56 (talk) 01:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies - I meant media - the sound clips are also non-free. I can't see a rationale for five different sound clips to illustrate a single LP. Black Kite (t) (c) 01:54, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps limiting them to 3 or 2? Dan56 (talk) 03:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can the sound/feel of the album be summed up in two? Black Kite (t) (c) 07:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, done. Dan56 (talk) 21:37, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good job. Black Kite (t) (c) 23:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SHould it be considered title track?

"Winter in America", as mentioned in the article, was created after the album's release. In that case, is it really correct to mention Christgau's thoughts on it in this article, at least in the way it is incorporated. Yeah, it kind of softens the blow of his review, but... — Preceding unsigned comment added by TarkovskyFanX957 (talk • contribs) 21:34, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

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Start class:

Y A reasonably complete infobox
Y A lead section giving an overview of the album
Y A track listing
Y Reference to at least primary personnel by name (must specify performers on the current album; a band navbox is insufficient)
Y Categorisation at least by artist and year

C class:

Y All the start class criteria
Y A reasonably complete infobox, including cover art
Y At least one section of prose (in addition to the lead section)
Y A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
Y A "personnel" section listing performers, including guest musicians.

B class:

Y All the C class criteria
Y A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
Y A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
Y No obvious issues with sourcing, including the use of blatantly improper sources.
Y No significant issues exist to hamper readability, although it may not rigorously follow WP:MOS

Andrzejbanas (talk) 04:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 18:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 10:47, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Chart performance of "The Bottle"

I read the article discussing the musician Gil Scott-Heron. Reading one paragraph, I assume that the number-15 spot may have referred to the album, not the song. Furthermore, I checked chart histories of Gil Scott-Heron and Brian Jackson. Neither can confirm that the song reached #15 on the weekly 1974 Billboard R&B (Soul) chart. I searched for other charts without luck. I even search for back issues of Billboard magazine. The magazine listed the Brother to Brother version entitled "In the Bottle" in 1974 and then Joe Bataan version one year later. I could erase or replace the info, but I figured that would be a lot of work. --George Ho (talk) 23:39, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I appreciate your check-up on this article. It was one of my earliest works here, maybe 13 or 14 years ago, so it could probably use a lot of revamping... if you'd like to collaborate, I'd welcome it. Piotr Jr. (talk) 17:14, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]