Talk:Winchester Model 1894

Leader in sales

Gun Digest Treasury (ed. by Harold Murtz, DBI, 1994), p190, credits over six million Win94s built by 1982, all-time leader in high-powered rifle sales. Also, wasn't the 94 chambered in .44-40? Or was that the 73? Trekphiler 10:06 & 10:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

They made more Mosin-Nagant, Lee-Enfield, and Mauser rifles, all of which are chambered in more powerful cartridges (7.62x54R, .303 British, and 7.92x57 Mauser respectively) than the Winchester Model 94's .30-30 cartridge. It might be the most numerous civilian centrefire rifle, but it's not most numerous centrefire rifle full stop. --Commander Zulu 08:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

If you factor in the AK-47, it certainly is not. I was likely the most produced American rifle. 66.191.19.42 16:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

It was/is the most commercially produced rifle. Meaning, not made for a military or produced by a nation/military's arms factories. These rifles were strictly made for commercial civilian use.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 16:42, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

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Winchester 1894 Models were also manufactured in typical handgun calibers such as .38Special/.357Magnum, .44Special/.44Magnum, .45 Colt (sometimes called the .45 Long Colt or .45 Cowboy) as well as the 44-40. Typically, the tube magazine is able to hold 9 to 13 rounds of the previously mentioned calibers. The magazine capacity depends on the length of the barrel, as the tube magazine usually covered the entire length of the barrel. The 1894 action, designed for .30 caliber rifle rounds, was stronger than the action of the Winchesters (Models: 1892, 1873, 1866) that were designed for handgun calibers. Handgun calibers are preferred by modern day Cowboy Action Shooters as it allows one type of ammo for rifle and handgun. A typical combination would be an 1873 Colt (Colt Peacemaker) and a Winchester (or another lever action) capable of shooting the same ammo. --Nvasi 03:00, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, Nvasi: The 1892 is a considerably stronger action than the 1894, even if it was designed for short cartridges. The 1892 was a smaller version of Browning's M1886, a massively strong action for the huge 45-90 and 50-110 "buffalo" cartridges. The 1894 was a step backwards: corners were cut in order to produce a smaller, lighter rifle which could chamber long rounds. The 94's Marlin-style locking bar isn't nearly as tough as the 86/92's twin sliding lock-blocks. (The Henry-based 1866/73/76 used a much weaker toggle-link design).Solicitr (talk) 03:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I know that you can not use pointed bullets in the magizine tube, but i was wondering of you could reload the shells with polymer tip bullets, would that set off the shell infront of it or is polymer tips soft enough, or are they too hard to use in the magizine tube?

Yes: Hornaday makes plastic-tipped spitzer rounds for use in tubular mags.Solicitr (talk) 03:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Commemoratives?

I have never seen a Win '94 with a Brass , or Bronze, reciever but someone told me a few Commemoratives were. I still think he is confusing bronzed or gold Plated with solid bronze. A gun chambered for a modern smokeless cartridge wouldn't be safe if bronze, it would blow up. Perhaps a few Cowboy models specifically chambered for, say, .44-40 black powder were? I haven't seen any, Personally; the internet picturs Could be plated and I see no description of metals used. I Know they can't sell a working gun that is unsafe, commemorative or not. They know Someone will try shooting it, they don't want the liability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.162.46.94 (talk) 15:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Axis (German) Service?

Maybe we should add a factoid that Winchester's captured from the British were used by the Wehrmacht with the designation Gewehr 248(e) [1]. 68.116.112.125 19:25, 18 October 2007 (UT

Added note, with cite.--Surv1v4l1st ^{▌Talk|Contribs▌} 19:10, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Scope Mounts

The article states that on the top-eject models, scopes could only be attached forward of the action. This is not accuarate as side-mounts with case deflectors have been around for some time. 66.191.19.217 16:53, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Spruce Guns in WW1

I recently read an online article on a group of 30-30 Winchester 94's that were bought by the US government and issued to the Army signal or air corps (one was part of the other for a while). the guns were used by that units "spruce procurement division" to protect forest land and sawmills in the pacific northwest. The timber was vital to building WWI warplanes. The guns were standard 94's. They supposedly had cases of the old 160gr FMJ ammo too. Also, the article talked about Winchester advertising the M94 for home guard service early in WWII. Anybody with the time and inclination can google 'spruce guns 94 winchester' and write an academically acceptable article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.14.251.56 (talk) 02:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I know a few were issued to the USN in China in the 20's for S/P work. The few times a Winchester was ever issued in the US military. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.162.46.94 (talk) 15:45, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

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One of the most popular hunting rifles of all time

This is worthless praise for the first sentence of an encyclopedia. It obviously isn't that now, nor has it been for a good while. It's not even a good hunting rifle for long distance due to its limitations to 30-30 and smaller calibers. 64.223.144.145 (talk) 01:03, 28 March 2021 (UTC)John Dee.

Police and prison use

The Winchester 94 was also widely used by state, county and city police and prison guards. -- Naaman Brown (talk) 23:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)