Talk:Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory/Archive 3

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Film prints and publicity from Paramount?

There should be surviving prints and publicity from Paramount, correct? After all, this film was distributed by Paramount. --Gh87 (talk) 23:04, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Home Media Update

Could someone please add some stuff about the 40th Anniversary Ultimate Collector's Edition to the "Home Media" section? It includes the same widescreen DVD and the same Blu-Ray Disc released before, a new interview with Mel Stewart, and a copy of his book, Pure Imagination: The Making of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. 134.48.91.44 (talk) 17:46, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Peter Stuart as Winkelmann

Second time I've delinked the Peter Stuart who is Mel Stuart's son, born 1958, from the musician in Dog's Eye View. Again, any takers? MartinSFSA (talk) 07:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Add mention of Willy Wonka meme?

The Willy Wonka meme is quite popular on the Internet these days http://www.troll.me/meme/willy-wonka-gene-wilder/

Maybe this warrants a mention in the article, what do you think? E.g. we could add a subsection "Reception" --> "In popular culture" for it.

Best, --Georgepauljohnringo (talk) 14:13, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Have any third-party reliable sources taken note of it? Doniago (talk) 14:32, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Did a quick search, it is mentioned e.g. in this Forbes article (search for "meme" in the article): http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2012/05/01/seomoz-raises-18-million-in-venture-capital-from-foundry-group-and-ignition-partners/

Also, the Peruvian newspaper La República has an article devoted to it: http://www.larepublica.pe/29-04-2012/condescending-wonka-el-meme-de-moda-en-facebook

(Google translation here: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.larepublica.pe%2F29-04-2012%2Fcondescending-wonka-el-meme-de-moda-en-facebook&act=url )

Looks good to me, what do you think?

Best, --Georgepauljohnringo (talk) 12:57, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

It gets exactly one mention in the Forbes article; I wouldn't consider that significant, especially as it's lumped in with others. I'm unable to review the other source presently. I can't recommend inclusion at this time, but if other editors chime in I'm willing to abide by their thoughts on the matter. Doniago (talk) 13:04, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

I can't edit the references

Reference 7 is not the correct link. It should link to "http://www.filmsite.org/cultfilmsew.html". Sorry but when I try to edit the references it just shows me {Reflist}

Go to the part of the article in the editing box in which the reference is. Edit it there. Adding "{Reflist}" is just a template message used to show the reflist. Also, remember to sign your posts with four tildes.

72.230.135.196 (talk) 01:15, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Wonkavator?

Wonkavator or Wankavator? I assumed the latter was vandalism, but it's now been changed more than once. Doniago (talk) 15:44, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Inspiration

Some of this film's scenes inspired the scenes from SpongeBob's Atlantis SquarePants, like the part where the carpet is rolled out and Willy Wonka trips over (same thing happened with Lord Royal Highness). Plus, the movie is a musical, like Atlantis SquarePants. The music scenes in Atlantis SquarePants are worse than the ones in Willy Wonka. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.29.48.111 (talk) 22:23, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Dates

In the movie, when Charlie gets the ticket it tells him to be there on the 1st of October. Someone, I think it was the grandfather, says that that is tomorrow and there is so much to do, brush your teeth, ...

Is Oct 1 is the next day, then the day he gets the ticket must be Sep 30. What if it had been a couple days before someone found the ticket? They would have missed it.

Also, Willy tells Charlie that he had read all about him in the papers. I suppose it is not completely impossible, but very unlikely that the day after Charlie found the ticket, early in the morning, Willy Wonka could have read all about him in the papers, don't you think?

-- Tony — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.84.231.3 (talk) 12:13, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Don't everybody answer at once now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.84.231.3 (talk) 14:12, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Unsourced material

Below information was tagged for needing sources long-term. Feel free to reinsert with appropriate references. DonIago (talk) 17:08, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Early life

==Development== Dahl, who had rights to the film production, unsuccessfully pushed for Spike Milligan to play Willy Wonka. His next choice, Ron Moody, rejected the part. Jon Pertwee also turned down the role due to ongoing commitments to Doctor Who. All six members of Monty Python (Graham Chapman, John Cleese, Eric Idle, Terry Gilliam, Terry Jones, and Michael Palin) had all expressed great interest in playing the role, but they were deemed not big enough names for an international audience. Milligan's Goon Show costar Peter Sellers was considered for the role. Also initially considered was Broadway star Joel Grey, who ultimately was rejected due to his small physical stature. Auditions were held for a week in New York City's Plaza Hotel, where Gene Wilder was immediately awarded the role. Wilder said that he would do the film only if Wonka first appeared onscreen coming out of the factory hobbling with a cane, only to then lose it and do a somersault, establishing Wonka as a trickster. Further auditions were held in New York, London, and Munich to fill the parts of the other children and their parents.

DMY dates?

Why does this article use DMY dates when the beginning of the article CLEARLY states that this an American film? DBZFan30 (talk) 22:38, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

I have a idea.

Because it is so excellently sourced and has no red links, I think the page could be a good article. Gary "Roach" Sanderson (talk) 18:02, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Michael Bollner

I was wondering why Michael Bollner doesn't have his own page. Any links to his name redirect here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.188.160 (talk) 18:56, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

See this discussion – Bollner doesn't meet WP's Notability criteria under WP:NACTOR because he never made another movie before or after this. Nor does his subsequent career as an accountant qualify under WP:GNG. To be honest, I'm not sure that Peter Ostrum (Charlie) himself merits a separate biography, but I can't be bothered arguing the point. However, it might be worthwhile adding a section here mentioning the various cast reunions, "where are they now," etc. Muzilon (talk) 00:00, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I'd hardly consider Peter Ostrum's career as a vet to be fascinating enough to keep an article on him, or at least not noteworthy enough compared to his one-time acting role. In regards to Michael Bollner, it's been said in various interviews (some by he himself as much as I recall) that he made one or two films in German post-Wonka, only to focus more on studying afterwards which led to him becoming an accountant. And Paris Themmen's done very little post-Wonka too (the only noteworthy thing about him is his recent appearance on Jeopardy), so if he has enough (if very little) trivia about him to keep his article, why can't Bollner?

If a Michael Bollner page did happen to resurface, it could be noted that he lived near the film studio where Wonka was made (thus not staying in the hotel with his fellow cast members), and that he couldn't speak English before making the film so he had to be coached on his lines. Surely this minimal amount of trivia warrants an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.144.204 (talk • contribs)

Television debut

I removed the section about the film's television debut because it's irrelevant. There was nothing notable about the film being shown on tv, other than the conflict with the football game. Other film articles don't have sections talking about their television debut. Why should this one? Can anyone make a case for its inclusion? ---The Old Jacobite_{The '45} 13:17, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps "irrelevant", but not "utterly irrelevant". Some movie entries do have sections on television showings. Hence I'm adding the text here, if someone wants to make a case beyond this. MartinSFSA (talk) 14:32, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Television

The film made its television debut on November 23, 1975, on NBC. There was some controversy with the showing as the Oakland Raiders vs Washington Redskins (26–23) football game went into overtime, and the first 40 minutes of the movie were cut. The film placed 19th in the TV Ratings for the week ending November 23, beating out The Streets of San Francisco and Little House on the Prairie. The next TV showing of the film was on May 2, 1976, where it placed 46th in the ratings. Some TV listings indicate the showing was part of the World of Disney time slot.

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