Talk:William Hillary

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Discrepencies in dates between staue inscription and text in main article. Ripsaw 00:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Tobin

The father, apparently, of Amelia (Emma) Tobin, Hillary's second wife, was Patrick Tobin (died 1794). There is an quite full family tree here. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:49, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Some interest in the fact that this made Hillary brother-in-law of Sir John Tobin (1763–1851), merchant, slave trader, and Mayor of Liverpool. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:59, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Order of sections

I have to say that I prefer to place family details at the end of articles. From a narrative point of view, they hold up the action. Biographies here generally follow that convention. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:14, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Manned vs Crewed

I recently made an edit that was rolled back where I manually replaced an edit, 'crewed by trained people' with the original, 'manned by trained crew.' I was prompted to do so as the edit I noticed that had been done for reasons of inclusivity, but, in the days of Sir William Hillary, there would have been no such thing as multi-gendered crews and the edit made no sense in the context of Sir William's life and times. In fact, it would have been more accurate to have used 'crewed by trained men' rather than 'crewed by trained people' as this would have been the intention for the composition of the crews at the time. However, 'manned' is generally taken as meaning crewed by people and is usually taken in an asexual manner and so I changed the text back to 'manned by trained crews.' I can understand the used of 'crewed' instead of 'manned' for modern-day vessels, but the context of the times within which the RNLI was created made the change nonsensical. I suppose that it may have been better to use 'He drew up plans for a lifeboat service with trained crews' but this seemed to be missing something to me. So, what do others think?