Talk:William Elliott (American politician)

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Requested move 28 May 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved to William Elliott (American politician). DrKiernan (talk) 19:24, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

William Elliott (politician) → William Elliott (U.S. politician) – There are many politicians of the same name. This politician isn't the primary politician of the same name. There is no criterion for one politician. More disambiguation is needed. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 01:41, 8 June 2015 (UTC) George Ho (talk) 08:39, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support as per nom. Greg Kaye 18:23, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. I would have done a bold move, but that's just me. CookieMonster755 ^(talk) 17:24, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Strong rename per nom. The current title should point to the disambiguation page -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:27, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to William Elliott (American politician), American being our usual disambiguator for Americans. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:47, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Move to William Elliott (American politician), which is more common among current titles. kennethaw88 • talk 02:19, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment William Elliott was a member of the United States House of Representatives as part of the Federal government of the United States. The emphasis is most regularly in "United States" rather than on "America" as is the case with such groups as the United States Army and the United States Air Force and as demonstrated by the common use of acronyms such as "USAF".

Pinging: @Necrothesp: and kennethaw88. Greg Kaye 08:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The standard disambiguator for all Americans is "American", as you will see if you look at any category. We do not use "U.S." as a disambiguator for people. It's his nationality that's important for disambiguation purposes and his nationality was American. It's irrelevant for this purpose whether he was a member of the United States Congress, a state legislature or a city council. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:21, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not necessarily against the current proposal, but I think the other disambiguation fits in with other titles. To provide some evidence, (American politician) is currently used 127 times, (U.S. politician) 84, and (US politician) 6. I don't see what your argument has to do with the current proposal, but I'm just saying that American is the common term for people from the United States. (Also, your ping didn't work). kennethaw88 • talk 03:30, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Per kennethaw88's usage stats "American" is a poor choice since it makes the title longer for not added benefit, failing WP:CONCISE when "U.S." works fine, and is frequently used anyways in the real world. -- 70.51.202.183 (talk) 04:30, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CONCISE really doesn't refer to the length of words! What it means is that we should use "American politician" rather than "Member of the United States House of Representatives"! -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:12, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just because some editors have done it doesn't mean it is normal practice or should be perpetuated. There are lots of mistaken article titles on Wikipedia. That's why we move them. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:10, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to William Elliott (American politician) Rreagan007 (talk) 01:18, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to William Elliott (American politician). This incomplete disambiguation has been continuing for nearly 8 years (since the article's creation in August 2007) (an earlier entry, William Elliott, Baron Elliott of Morpeth was created in November 2006 and as for the later ones, William Elliott (Peel MP) was created in February 2009, William Elliott (Ontario politician) was created in September 2009, William Elliott (Upper Canada politician) was created in December 2010, William Herbert Elliott was created in June 2011 and William Elliott (Saskatchewan politician) was created in March 2012). —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 18:44, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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