Talk:Western Iranian languages

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Southern Kurdish

I cut "Southern Kurdish" out from the "Kurdish" language/dialect listing (and adding it as another name for Gorani), as most sources seem to agree with. Same with "Laki". Anyone against?--Paracel63 (talk) 20:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

Shouldn't this page be renamed List of Western Iranian languanges ?All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 12:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it should in fact give more information than just a list of languages, like other pages on language families. --JorisvS (talk) 14:31, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdish

I noted that someone changed the text of the Kurdish language article to read northwestern although the source said southwestern. This is clearly pov and a bain of Wikipedia to change text so that it contradicts the source. The subject is very complicated. Eg, The A to Z of the Kurds By Michael M. Gunter[1] says "At the present time, some would argue there are only two main Kurdish languages, or branches of Kurdish. Kurmanji and Sorani may be considered major dialects of one language, belong to the southwestern branch of Iranian languages, and have by far the most speakers of any Kurdish dialects. (Some, however, consider these two to be separate languages.) Gurani and Dimili (Zaza) may be considered dialects of a second language, belong to the northwestern branch of the Iranian lan- guages. and have far fewer speakers. As already noted, there are many different dialects of each one of what may be called the two main Kur- dish languages. If one were to compare the Kurdish languages to the Romance languages, the relationship between the two main Kurdish languages might be somewhat analogous to that between French and Italian. To further complicate matters, some would consider the south-" (it goes on but you can read it on Google).

Turkey's Alevi Enigma: A Comprehensive Overview edited by Paul J. White, Joost Jongerden[2] says "The scholar Basile Nikitinc states that the Kurdish language (he does not differentiate between dialects/alleged dialects) is part of northwest group of Iranian languages (Nikitinc, 1956: 9). Vladimir Minorsky, however, agrees with most linguists today, including the Kurdish language specialist D. N. MacKcn/.ic, that Kurmanji is actually a southern Iranian language (MacKenzie, 1961: 68-86; Minorsky, 1964: 13-14)."

And so it goes. This is a particular problem as editors try to use the Kurdish language to prove descent from Medes, going so far as to distort the sources. Dougweller (talk) 13:51, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Caspian (Semnani, Mazandarani etc.)

How does it come that Semnani, Mazandarani and so on are classified as south-western?

There are clear arguments stating that the Caspian dialects are considered as north-western. (see Gippert and Windfuhr). CengÎzolî (talk) 21:39, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]