Talk:West Itchenor
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Requested move
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was: Not Moved. Itchenor continues to redirect here. Station1 (talk) 23:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
West Itchenor → Itchenor — Although Itchenor was called West Itchenor when an East Itchenor existed, it isn't anymore because the then East Itchenor was deserted around the time of the Great Plague and therefore obviously no longer exists. Therefore it was decided by the authorities to change West Itchenor to Itchenor. Willwal Talk Friday 28th August, 22:51 (UTC)
- Strong oppose The official name of the village and its civil parish is West Itchenor. You only have to look at the OS map to see that. Council records show it as West Itchenor. West may be omitted from some road signs to save space but that is irrelevant. --Charles (talk) 22:28, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
You say that, but many people recognise it to be called Itchenor. For example, Itchenor Sailing Club and not West Itchenor Sailing Club: [1], the Chichester Harbour Conservancy website recognise it as Itchenor: [2] and Nestoria call it Itchenor as well: [3]. I could name many more businesses, organisations, etc. who call this village Itchenor, but even the locals call it Itchenor rather than West Itchenor, and I know because I live there. Willwal, Talk 08:27, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose — The reference (singular) in the article uses "West Itchenor". If this really has been shortened to just "Itchenor", then it should be easy enough to find references which refer to the whole town in that fashion. It doesn't surprise me that specific locations within the town (and likely even most of the residents) woudl omit the "West" from the name, in order to shorten it, but that's not necessarily indicative of a real change. People will drop extraneous portions of names all the time, simply for brevity. This is exactly the type of situation that makes relying on references so important, incidentally. @Charles, if you get a chance, you should probably work that cite of the "Council records" into the article somehow. References are gold.
— V = I * R (talk to Ω) 12:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)- The reference is in the article, thanks to Mortimercat.--Charles (talk) 20:09, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nice. Thank you.
— V = I * R (talk to Ω) 02:14, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nice. Thank you.
- The reference is in the article, thanks to Mortimercat.--Charles (talk) 20:09, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose The name is clearly set out on the population document in the article. Locals may well refer to the village as simply Itchenor, just as locals refer to Ashton under Lyne as Ashton or Newcastle upon Tyne as Newcastle. However, the official name, and that used most widely outside the immediate locality (and incidentally by West Itchenor Parish Council) is West Itchenor. If Willwal is not happy with the name, then the redress is to approach his parish council to get it changed. If he can convince them, Wikipedia would follow suit. Incidentally, the following extract from the rules of The Itchenor Society is worth reading:-
- The Society is established for the public benefit for the following purposes In the area comprising West Itchenor and its adjacent land and waters which area shall hereinafter be referred to as 'the area of benefit’ from The Itchenor Society : Rules of Association Skinsmoke (talk) 01:53, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments, I think it is neccesary to keep West Itchenor's article name as it is. Thank you again.
Willwal Talk Monday 31st August, 09:26 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.