Talk:Werecat/Archive 1

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It should be noted that a number of the Shannara works of Terry Brooks list werecats as characters. They are not magical creatures however, but natural, with large size and excellent camoflage skills.

Please sign your comments, and please don't erase other people's material from the talk page without asking. I'm putting my previous comments back in below.Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 17:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Picture?

This article could do with a picture. I know there are some in Dungeons and Dragons monster manuals, or a novel cover or comic book character might be used. Does anyone have particular preferences? Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 22:13, 2 December 2006 (UTC)Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 17:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

If possible, I'd like to see a picture that shows an actual transformation happening, such as 2 or 3 sequential panels from a comic book. Can anyone locate this? Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 18:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Verifiability?

There seem to be verifiability concerns. However, quoting policy doesn't belong on the article page, it belongs here. I'm therefore moving the following quote here: {{Verifiability}} If you have verifiability concerns, please be specific on the talk page about which points are in question. References have already been included, if specific facts need footnotes, please add citation needed templates to those sentences using {{fact}}. Thanks. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 19:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Catpeople.jpg

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Fair use rationale for Image:FB kyo-g2.jpg

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Fair use rationale for Image:Half-Caste.jpg

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Reference No. 14

"During the witch trials, the official Church doctrine stated that all shapeshifters, including werewolves, were witches.[14]" Who ever claims that 'Malleus Maleficarum' was written in accordance with the official Catholic doctrine? Even the Wikipedia article about it states it wasn't: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_maleficarum 85.222.86.17 (talk) 17:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

WERECATS ARE FANTSY NOT REAL FAKE DUMM ANIMALS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.72.211.219 (talk) 19:48, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

why not

why do people say they cant be real? they can be as real as a human. humans dont seem to want to believe theres anything out there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.253.67 (talk) 19:44, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Provide some SCIENTIFIC evidence that werecats exist, and we'll believe you. Since you brought it up, you bear the responsibility of presenting evidence to back up your claims. If not, then please don't clutter up the talk page.

Right at the bottom of this page when you click "Edit": "Please post only encyclopedic information that can be verified by external sources. Please maintain a neutral, unbiased point of view."65.35.178.200 (talk) 05:05, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

'Symptoms, Causes and Behaviour'

If we're proceeding from the assumption that werecats are folklore then sections describing them as if they're real, giving no references, seem out of place to me (spelling and grammar were also very poor). Also fixed some errors in layout and grammar elsewhere. I don't see how references to archaic musical instruments are directly relevant to this topic, either. 86.26.17.60 (talk) 11:26, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I second that thought, firstly there isn't a single reference given, while at the same time the information is written as if werecats and werewolves (yes they're also mentioned) are real and rather common. The tone and language used give no indication that the content is anything but factual. Now it's more than possible that there are really werecats and that I've been living under a rock my entire life, but in that case there should be mountains of actual credible sources which can be used to reference this information.

Although how this can be rectified is unknown, ideally sources can be found and added (assuming any exists) or these headings can simply be removed.

werecats in india

No idea if there's any folklore, or rather, anything at all in india that comes close to werecats. be it mythology or folklore or local cultural histories. in maharshtra there's a tradition of 'waghya-murali' (वाघ्या-मुरळी) where people give their child to the local deity Khandoba (or Khanderaya or Malhari Martand). The boys are called 'waghya' (wagh वाघ being tiger in marathi) and gilrs are called 'murali'. these children grow up in temple and perform the famed folk-dance of 'waghya-murali' on various occasions and live on alms. other than the name (waghya pointing to tiger) and the cloths (in olden times tiger-skin was used as clothing), there is absolutely nothing indicating a 'werecat' nature. these are plain and simple humans and no folklore hints at becoming tigers.

There appears to be no more stories about men turning into any cats in rest of India, as far as my knowledge of India goes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yaajushi (talk • contribs) 13:50, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Spelling and grammar are atrocious!

I got about halfway through correcting the spelling, grammar, and punctuation of what looks like the work of a C- high school student, when I realized I'd have to pretty much rewrite the entire "Symptons"(sic) section to fix it, whereupon I gave up. Maybe that section should just be deleted: not only the spelling and grammar, but also the tone, are way below Wikipedia standards. At the very least, a "this article does not meet Wikipedia quality standards" should be added to the top. Chillowack (talk) 19:55, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I removed a large portion of this article, simply because it seemed to make no distinction between fact and fiction, and provided no references to back up the existence of 'werepeople.' A factual discussion without facts on the real daily lives of werejaguars doesn't really belong in this article in my opinion. I also consider some parts of the folklore section woefully under cited, specifically the Africa and Americas sections, but don't want to totally butcher everything immediately.Stuthulhu (talk) 22:27, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Triva

Remove the eighty gajillion pages of worthless triva. Incorporate it into the article, make a writeup on the impact of werecats in modern culture, whatever.. a simple Item 1 - blah, Item 2 - blah list is worthless, especially when it dwarfs the article in size. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.103.171.186 (talk) 19:19, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Seriously. On my resolution, there's a page of information with two pages of idiotic trivia points, most of which are related to beings that do not specifically act like a Werecat creature (The Druids of WoW, for example). Can we not remove the entire damned section unless someone can make it an actual addition, not a damned list? 69.64.3.68 11:38, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Trim the info, convert it to prose format that deals with the use of werecats in fiction rather than a list of examples, but don't just remove it. Fictional use is different than mythological and it's prevelance shows the importance of including info on it. Pairadox 11:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Let's avoid repetition- The Inheritance Trilogy is mentioned twice- I can't personally edit yet, so someone else must fix it in the meanwhile.--Nichtus (talk) 06:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Disputed Information

user 93.97.104.119 has several times added the same unverified information, as seen at edit, edit, edit, edit, and so on.

I want to assume good faith, but it would be really helpful if the author of those edits could provide some justification for their continued reintroduction, especially supporting sources, rather than simply putting them back in with no discussion. Since the back and forth has continued long-term, I'd just like to invite some sort of discussion rather than the continued pattern of blanking/reverting. Thanks, Stuthulhu (talk) 16:41, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

This user again added this information on 17 May 2011. I left another note on this user's talk page explaining the verifiability policy, among others. If this user continues adding this material, I see no reason to assume good faith anymore. Harsher warnings and sanctions will follow. P. D. Cook ^{Talk to me!} 19:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Errors?

From time to time this article has been accumulating entries in the fiction section that are not about werecats, but about cat-like humanoids. Please help me watch the article for these. Werecats are shapeshifters. If the creature in question does NOT shapeshift but remains in the same form all the time, then it is not a werecat. It belongs in some other article such as funny animal, furry or catgirl. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 18:33, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

For instance, today I see the Khajiit listed under "Games" in the fiction section. In reading about them, I don't see any indication that they are shapeshifters and I'm thinking of deleting that. This isn't an isolated incident, it keeps happening. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 18:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Another example is Michael Jackson's video "Thriller". It's been a while since I saw it but I'm pretty sure he never transforms into anything remotely catlike. He is a zombie for the synchronized dance sequence and at the very end, he has yellow monster eyes, but that's it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.130.15.14 (talk) 17:46, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Second Sentence Problem...

"It has an uncanny appearance, like that of Ms. Chavez."

Who exactly is "Ms. Chavez", and why is her appearance uncanny? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.69.46.4 (talk) 19:21, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Use in Eragon series

It should be noted that werecats in the Eragon series are not true werecats, but rather reverse werecats, in that they are cats that can take human form, not humans that can take cat form. 75.161.231.103 (talk) 22:41, 23 April 2013 (UTC)