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A fact from Welbore Ellis Agar appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 September 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that an auction of the art collection of Welbore Ellis Agar was abandoned when all of it, including works by Velazquez, Poussin, Lorrain, Murillo, and Rubens (example pictured) was bought by Earl Grosvenor?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 15:43, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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David meeting Abigail, workshop of Rubens

... that in 1806 a planned auction of the famous art collection of Welbore Ellis Agar was abandoned when the whole collection, including works by Velazquez, Poussin, Lorrain, Murillo, Guido Reni, and Rubens (example pictured), was ~~spectacularly~~ bought by Earl Grosvenor?
Source: Rebecca Lyons, "Selling the collection of Welbore Ellis Agar" in Susanna Avery-Quash, Christian Huemer, eds., London and the Emergence of a European Art Market, 1780-1820 (Getty Publications, 6 August 2019), p. 174, and p. 182 for the collection being famous.

- ALTa: ... that an auction of the art collection of Welbore Ellis Agar was abandoned when all of it, including works by Velazquez, Poussin, Lorrain, Murillo, and Rubens (example pictured) was bought by Earl Grosvenor?

- ALT1: ... that the "Chevalier Egard" who appears in the Memoirs of Giacomo Casanova has been identified as his friend the art collector Welbore Ellis Agar?
  Source: Horace Bleackley, Casanova in England: Being the Account of the Visit to London in 1763-4 (1925), pp. viii, 166: “a rich and jovial libertine, designated in the various editions of the Mémoires as Sir Edgar, Chevalier Egard, or simply Egard. The real name of this individual was Welbore Ellis Agar.”

- Reviewed: Alena Analeigh Wicker

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 03:02, 27 July 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Moonraker, review follows: article created 26 July and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't pick up any overly close paraphrasing from a sample of sources I could access; a QPQ has been carried out; hooks are interesting enough for me (I prefer ALT0) and mentioned in the article. My only outstanding query is whether you could confirm if there is a source for the "spectacular" nature of the purchase, I couldn't find similar wording on pages 174 or 182 of Lyons (but may very well have missed it), though that so much is written about it implies that it was unusual. Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 07:25, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dumelow, thanks for the review. I am not sure if that word is used in a source or was parachuted in by me, for the sudden sale of 120 old masters, baffling the dealers of the old world. I also can’t trace it, and as it troubles you I am striking it out. Moonraker (talk) 07:36, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Moonraker, looks good to go - Dumelow (talk) 07:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Moonraker: If the image is to be used on DYK, the image will require a US public domain tag in order to be properly licenced. A list of tags can be found here. My guess is that this image would use {{PD-US-expired}} or {{PD-1996}}. Please ping me if you have any questions. Z1720 (talk) 15:11, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As you wish it, Z1720, I have added {{PD-US-expired}}. Moonraker (talk) 23:10, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Readding tick, per the review above and my concern is resolved. Z1720 (talk) 17:41, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Moonraker I like ALT0, but it's over the 200 character limit. Can you shorten it? SL93 (talk) 00:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SL93, try ALTa. The rule says we should not count the "(pictured)", so I think this now complies. Moonraker (talk) 03:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]