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Can’t someone measure it?

Why does the article say the “height is reported to be between 25 and 33 feet (7.6 and 10.1 m)”? NickWikiAccount1708 (talk) 02:04, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One issue is that Wikipedia wants info from reliable sources, not self measurements. Jason McHuff (talk) 09:29, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, couldn’t someone measure it, verify it, publish it, post it on Wikipedia...? Goofy to me that the measurement is an estimate for a finite structure. NickWikiAccount1708 (talk) 16:29, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Publisher of HowStuffWorks

@Another Believer: Is HowStuffWorks (currently cited in ref 23) actually published by TLC? I don't see any mention of this on the website's about section, and the website's copyright info lists HowStuffWorks as a division of InfoSpace Holdings LLC. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 05:11, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lord Bolingbroke: According to HowStuffWorks, "The website was acquired by Discovery Communications in 2007, but sold it to different owners in 2014." I guess I'll remove mention of TLC. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:26, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced TLC as the publisher with HowStuffWorks as the website, and updated the access date. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:37, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Light art?

I'm on the fence, if this is a lumino kinetic artwork that uses lights to display information, should Category:Light art be included? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:47, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Picture not fit for purpose

This picture clearly has insufficient contrast of subject and background: it adds no understanding to the article and does nothing to illustrate the article. At present, it serves no purpose beyond demonstrating the poor supply of better pictures, and the inexplicable willingness of Wikipedia to put something of this standard on the Main Page. No picture is better than a bad picture. Kevin McE (talk) 17:10, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. Weather Machine is a contemporary work of art, which means our options are very limited (see commons: Category:Weather Machine). However, this image was kept after being nominated for deletion at Wikimedia Commons (see commons:File talk:Occupy Portland (Downtown PDX).jpg). You're right, this is not the best photograph for illustrating the machine/artwork, but IMO having this illustration is better than having none at all. The image at least shows some context w/r/t scale and where the machine is installed within the square. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:30, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Its location within the square is relevant only to those who already know it: those who know that square. As to there being no alternative, we already have two much clearer images in the article, so it is nota case of this or nothing. I note that the rationale for keeping it is that as a picture of the Weather Machine, it is a pretty hopeless picture that scarcely shows it. That is an admission that it really doesn't merit the bandwidth. Kevin McE (talk) 18:14, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agree to disagree, and let's just let others weigh in. I've posted a note at WikiProject Oregon. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would say three pictures of the same thing, which all have to be fair use to an extent, is problematic as a side issue. From an article standpoint, it also adds little to have three pictures of it. I would suggest taking the one from the history section and moving it to this spot, and replace the history one with an image of Willard Scott. It would be relevant given the dedication, and that way not three of the same thing. If you want context, I think a map of the square and its location in it does a better job. Aboutmovies (talk) 21:42, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]