Talk:Warren Olney IV

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On 31 May 2013, it was proposed that this article be moved from Warren Olney (journalist) to Warren Olney IV. The result of the discussion was page moved.

Requested multi-page move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved by consensus, although there's a good case for WP:UCN. Since Warren Olney Sr. is probably still the primary topic (which using Google hits alone is inadequate to determine), I left it as is. Per WP:2DABS, the hatnote on Warren Olney seems sufficient. Miniapolis 15:45, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Warren Olney (journalist) → Warren Olney IV
Warren Olney → ?

– Should we use natural disambiguation or parenthetical disambiguation? Warren Olney the lawyer, environmentalist, and politician is a great-grandfather of the journalist of the same name, making the great-grandfather the "I". But how do we disambiguate the journalist's great-grandfather if we prefer the parenthetical disambiguation? The great-grandfather is the primary topic, but the views are very small. The journalist can challenge that. Is WP:PRIMARYTOPICS conflicting with WP:AT, or can a policy and a guideline work together? George Ho (talk) 02:44, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment atleast, Warren Olney I , Warren Olney, Sr. should redirect to the patriarch, along with Warren Olney (environmentalist). ; Warren Olney, Jr./Warren Olney II and Warren Olney III seem like they could be notable enough for articles, so perhaps "Warren Olney" should become a disambiguation page/set index page. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 04:19, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support use of natural disambiguation, following the example of Connie Mack, Connie Mack III, and Connie Mack IV. Unless we get better evidence to the contrary, use Warren Olney, Sr. for the patriarch. I tried a blunt Google test, and most searches for "warren olney i" -wikipedia were false positives. By all means make that a redirect though. I also tried searches for the son, in which Warren Olney, Jr. was the overwhelming favorite over Warren Olney II, which further supports using Sr./Jr. rather than I/II. --BDD (talk) 22:19, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support use of natural disambiguation per rationale of BDD, while keeping the current title as a redirect.--JayJasper (talk) 17:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Google Web Search for "Warren Olney IV" has 65 page hits (and 37 for "Warren Olney IV" -wikipedia). The proposed title does not seems to meet "an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English". --Kusunose 02:47, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.