Talk:War in Afghanistan order of battle, 2012

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Hi guys Please note I've reorganised the page to match the operational chain of command more. Comments and suggestions for reversions/changes are very welcome - what do people think? Cheers Buckshot06 03:42, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Hi Buckshot. The article looks very good with much information to find. Rob van Doorn 22:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC). With some others I'm trying to keep the ISAF article up to date. Did you already take a look at it?

updated

I kinda notice that the article needs to be update i don't know why, It has the information on replacing unit on the upcoming deployment column. can anybody that know how to use this site updates this. 04:42, 15 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.133.146.178 (talk)

Belgium and Luxemburg

The official website of BELU-ISAF 12 (In Dutch and French): http://www.mil.be/isaf/index.asp?LAN=nl (The Belgium army is assisting the PRTs at the north of Afghanistan.)

Czech Republic

The information about the Chech republic which I already used at the ISAF-article, and two links as reference. Maybe something can be used at this article? Regards: Rob van Doorn 17:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Czech Republic - At the start of the Czech contribution 17. By June 2006 there were 100 Czech soldiers in two Czech operations. At the airport of Kabul is a Czech ACR contingent deployed. The task of the ACR contingent - the EOD (Explosive Ordnance Detachment) - is, first, the keeping minefield awareness and anti-explosives protection of the KAIA International Airport in Kabul, and, second, the contribution of the Czech personnel to air traffic weather service. The Number of Czech military personnel on this operation is 17 (to 1 June 2006).

The Czech 102nd Reconnaissance Battalion have been part of a provincial reconstruction team at Fayzabad, Badakshan province, since 9 March 2005. Their task is to support security in the area, to protect international units, and to cooperate with local people in reconstruction of their homeland. Czech scouts are assigned to the team of about 200 soldiers together with Danes and soldiers of the German Bundeswehr. The number of Czech military personnel on this operation is 83 (to 1 june 2006). [4]

The number of troops is expected to rise to 150 by the end of the year when the Czechs take command of Kabul's airport. At the end of September 2006, the Czech Republic's defense ministry said, it plans to contribute up to 190 troops to the force next year. The move still must be approved by the government and parliament. [5]

Germany

The German contribution to ISAF (3,000 soldiers) is operating in the North of Afghanistan. The mandate of their government does not allow them to take part in the battle against the Taliban insurgency in the East and South of Aghanistan. This leads to friction between NATO-members. Other NATO countries are asking Germany to reinforce NATO-ISAF in the South. (Source for the German involvement: http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/C1256F1D0022A5C2/CurrentBaseLink/W265HK9Y385INFODE (about ISAF), http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/C1256F1D0022A5C2/CurrentBaseLink/W265HJYE901INFODE (about Enduring Freedom). The sites are in German.

Involvement of Iran?

For me, as an observer, I was reading something unexpected:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, meanwhile, called Sunday (September, 26, 2006) for the people of Afghanistan to join forces in driving out foreign "occupiers". http://www.afghannews.net/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=1487

Separate order of battles.

As this is about the current order of battle, and will no doubt change in 2007, there are other articles for other order of battles.

Operation Enduring Freedom - Afghanistan: Allies for US and coalition forces and other forms of support for Operation Enduring Freedom from October 2001 to 2003.

For coalition forces involved in NATO combat operations in southern Afghanistan in 2006, the article Coalition combat operations in Afghanistan in 2006. And the article International Security Assistance Force for coalition forces in Afghanistan as part of ISAF. Chwyatt 14:59, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Turkey in Afghanistan

There is no mention to Turkish forces in the coalition even though Turkey held the command of the Coalition Forces twice. Can someone update the information please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cruist22 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

No Afghan forces listed

Should we list the Afghan forces - including 201, 203, 205th Corps (Afghanistan) 207, and 209 Corps, or change the page name to something like 'Afghanistan War coalition order of battle?' Buckshot06(prof) 22:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so unless we can determine what coalition units they are attached to. I don't think the Afghan forces are yet operating independently. Dsw (talk) 15:30, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I've raised a move request for this page at WT:MILHIST#Afghanistan War order of battle, proposing that this article be renamed 'Afghanistan War coalition order of battle.' Comments are invited - should we move this page? Buckshot06(prof) 21:59, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Only if they are under the chain of command of the coalition forces. They can be listed separately, within the article, just like how those U.S. Forces who operate outside of the NATO umbrella have been listed in the past. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:32, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Support Page Move - Afghan Coalition Order of Battle

Oppose Page Move - Afghan War Order of Battle

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Recent updates

Hello! I am currently working on updating this article. If you have any comments/criticisms, please let me know. I just deleted a bunch of information, all of the stuff on the contributions of individual countries. I did this for one because the information was outdated (from 2009), and also because it was out of the scope of this article. Much of the information did not fit within the form of an order of battle, which should be a listing of the units involved in a conflict, with supporting detail. However, much of the deleted information can be found in abbreviated form at ISAF#Contributing nations or in articles like Coalition combat operations in Afghanistan in 2008. I will try to get some of the removed information back in as I continue to work on this article. Thanks, --Cerebellum (talk) 21:28, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Someone suggested earlier (like 2007) that this should not be one entry, but perhaps several, or become an ORBAT by phase. I'm thinking perhaps, in the interest of history, we need to look at a way ahead that doesn't require constant revision/rewriting of sections of a page that by it's nature, is subject to change on an almost monthly basis.Caisson 06 (talk) 21:47, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you are probably right. There was a related discussion here, where someone said that "We may eventually need some kind of 'timeline' eventually where we just list all units in the conflict with a sortable table by when they served." That makes sense to me, but it would be tremendously difficult, so I'm not planning to do it anytime soon. If you want to get started, though, more power to you :p --Cerebellum (talk) 21:59, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

This page might be more manageable if we only listed units down to brigade level. --Cerebellum (talk) 21:52, 30 September 2012 (UTC)